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[-] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 112 points 7 months ago

Pretty clear neither of these imperialists give a fuck about the people, and only care about its effects on the election. Reps make a big deal out of nothing to use against dems, and dems concede to them.

Just the usual ratchet effect

[-] cdf12345@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

How are democrats blocking movement back left? Unless it’s refusing to play dirty, like freezing out a Supreme Court nominee for almost a year, or passing knowingly constitutionally dubious laws to let the courts essentially legislate from the bench, I just don’t see it that way at all.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

It's not even refusing to play dirty. Liberals haven't had all 3, POTUS, Senate, and House, at the same time in my lifetime.

They were within a couple seats in Biden's first 2 years. Manchin and Sinema gave Democrats a majority, but they still didn't have a liberal majority. And with the extremely politicized SCOTUS, there are major limits to what liberals can accomplish.

Not only that, but conservative propaganda works really well. It's not even always policy. Identity politics are actively working against Democrats. So when something that is policy like immigration gets national attention, Democrats cannot afford to ignore it. If they do, THEY WILL LOSE to the people who are radicals.

[-] holland@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So you are less than 14 years old?

2009-2011, they had all 4, POTUS, Senate (59 seats), House and SCOTUS.

Seriously learn some damn history. And it's extremely disingenious to claim that the Dems didn't have all 3 from 2021-2023.

Further the last time the GOP has had all 3 was in 2007. Yet, somehow they manage to get their agenda through.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I'm 34.

I said liberals not Dems.

I said liberals not Dems.

And learn some damn history yourself. Trump replaced 2 liberal justices which only requires POTUS and Senate. And we learned under Trump that it's much, MUCH easier to hurt people than to help people. Thanks everyone who refused to vote for Hillary. You did this.

You want change? Vote more liberals in. Don't want change? Keep bitching.

[-] holland@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Yet again, with the disingenious bullshit.

Liberals = Dems

And learn some damn history yourself. Trump replaced 2 liberal justices which only requires POTUS and Senate. And we learned under Trump that it’s much, MUCH easier to hurt people than to help people. Thanks everyone who refused to vote for Hillary. You did this.

You just proved my point, dude. Look you don't need all three branches to actual produce results for your base. The Dems don't produce the results we want because they do not want to not because they're powerless.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Liberals = Dems

If you think that, you probably shouldn't talk politics. And it's probably not worth the time to talk politics with you.

[-] holland@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

You should probably learn political terms before telling people not to talk politics. Liberalism as defined by Oxford.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh neat. Here's the definition of political by Oxford.

[-] Pipoca@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I assume his point is that calling Manchin or Sinema "liberal" isn't super accurate.

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