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One time it wasn't a bigot, but an old guy taking creepshots of college girls on the light rail

Edit: If you're going to argue against my meme, then why don't you tell me what you expect me to do when I see someone hurling epithets and slurs against brown people or trans people, or homophobes calling me a "faggot" and spitting at me? Just sit there on my hands like a useless log?

And moreover, if you've come here from other instances for the sole purpose of calling me names, I'm going to report that shit and message your instance admins. There is NOTHING about my post or comments that is attacking or insulting anyone, unless you're a creep or a bigot.

I'm not going to sit idly by while others cause harm.

Remember to always stand up for what's right. Ignore the ignorant people who tell you not to. They're part of the problem.

This is an essential part of mutual aid

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[-] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 26 points 10 months ago

Ok but are you also willing to accept a group of white Christians forcing a Muslim off the bus?

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav 20 points 10 months ago

The meme is talking about forcing bigots off the bus. This is the opposite of what the meme is about lol

So to answer your question: Of course not

"bUt ThAt'S wHaT yOuRe SaYiNg ThAt MoB jUsTiCe Is GoOd"

Nope, not saying that at all. I'm saying we need to use direct action against bigotry and other forms of injustice. What we don't need to do is create new injustices.

This is literally "punching Nazis is bad" logic. "Logic."

[-] Ethanice 26 points 10 months ago

Your logic is that we don't need police because mob justice will take care of it. Which group is more prone to mob justice, I wonder?

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav 13 points 10 months ago

This is not my message. This is a very ungracious and bad-faith reading of my meme, and it's not at all the situation I've described. The situation in question involves people who seek to cause harm.

[-] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Ok but it assumes that the rest of the people on the bus are reasonable which is correct in this case but is a bad assumption to make.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav 6 points 10 months ago

No, it doesn't.

Imagine if I post a picture of a BLM protest, saying I support it, and you reply by telling me if I support this protest, then I must also support white nationalist protests as well.

That's what you're doing here, and it's quite baffling that you can't seem to grasp this.

I believe in taking direct action against things that are harmful and oppressive, such as bigots. That's ... not really a controversial statement to make. It's like saying we should punch Nazis. "Aha but now you need to punch everyone!" Uhhh ... no. This leap you've made is quite irreconcilable with what I've communicated in my post and comments. It has some real "all lives matter" energy.

[-] Hegar@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

I think you're confusing approved and appropriate.

Kicking a bigot or a creep off a train is appropriate, if even it's not done by an official, approved authority figure.

Support for that doesn't mean supporting behavior that is unapproved and inappropriate, like religious persecution.

Relying only on action from approved authorities doesn't make it any more likely that the actions taken will be appropriate. As the police show us daily.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 10 months ago

Neither!

It's a tie, because humans are humans!

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