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submitted 10 months ago by mossy_capivara@midwest.social to c/196

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[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Yes but there is more to it. Formally progressive ideas (like mixed race marriage) are no-brainers today while today's progressive ideas (like same sex marriage) were beyond the scope for the moderate left back than. So you can keep your opinions and still move to the right while the left adopts new ideas.

[-] FakeGreekGirl 9 points 10 months ago

Formally progressive ideas (like mixed race marriage) are no-brainers today

I mean, you say that, but...

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I have seen alot but that comes as a shock to me

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

One thing I have definitely observed over the years.

It seems only the left comes up with new ideas and so, even when they don't have political power, they still move society forward.

And yes, there are backlash and temporary regressions, but overall, no free country seems to be moving towards old, conservative ideas.

For humanity, the only way seems forward. Towards the newer and better ideas.

[-] rumschlumpel 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Countries don't always stay free, though. Look at Hong Kong, Russia and Hungary.

[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Russia wasn't free for very long.

[-] rumschlumpel 2 points 10 months ago

But it was. Yeah, it's more likely to happen to a country that's only been more-or-less free for about 15 years, but hardly impossible in older democracies.