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why are incels frowned/hated upon? (lemmy.world)

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Obviously I can understand why mysoginists are hated upon, As their belief is all women are trash or men are superior etc. But why are incels also generally hated upon? They are lacking in a way that makes them unable to gey in a relationship, but that shouldn't necessarily mean they are mysoginists, right?

What am I missing here? I haven't ever had a relationship with a woman, but I don't hate all women either. I just consider myself unlucky. Does that make me an incel?

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[-] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

It doesn’t account for socioeconomic disparities, which is a far greater indicator and predictor of crime than race.

It doesn’t acknowledge systemic bias and racism in policing practices, again well documented.

It doesn’t take into account disparities in reporting and data collection.

Ultimately the fbi statistics are in fact questionable for a multitude of reasons, the least of which being that they are direct statistics that don’t take into account underlying causes.

Right and all of these clearly disadvantage black Americans, and specifically black men, for obviously racist reasons.

Why do these not also disfavor men generally for equally bigoted reasons? Are there not fallacious biases regarding the innate criminality of men just as there are fallacious biases regarding the innate criminality of black people?

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I’m so done with your bad faith arguments. Jfc.

You’re intentionally obtuse, you ignore the points I’m making, making up fallacious and straw man arguments, ignoring empirical data, and failing to make a single argument with any sort of data to support it. Instead you engage in whataboutism as if it is some gotcha moment that should win me over and start convincing women to stop being cautious around men because if they don’t they’re bigots, when you have made clear time and again that you don’t even understand what bigotry is. Get your shit together and make a valid argument or shut up. Until you do, I’m out.

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