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Obviously I can understand why mysoginists are hated upon, As their belief is all women are trash or men are superior etc. But why are incels also generally hated upon? They are lacking in a way that makes them unable to gey in a relationship, but that shouldn't necessarily mean they are mysoginists, right?

What am I missing here? I haven't ever had a relationship with a woman, but I don't hate all women either. I just consider myself unlucky. Does that make me an incel?

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[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The vast majority of Muslims in the west, like Christians, are ideologically against folks that are LGBTQ, but they aren’t out there assaulting 81% of LGBTQ people. This, like the other commenter is saying, is a false equivalence and not relevant.

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

You think that your hypothetical men who are so evil are somehow not Muslim or black? Why?

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You’re the only one here insinuating that Muslims and black people are evil.

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

You're saying that you hate men, but you don't hate men who are black are Muslim? Why is that?

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Never once said I hate men. Cause I don’t. In fact I quite like men. But even though I’m not a woman, I’m wary of strange men that I don’t know.

Why are you making things up and being unapologetically obtuse?

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Being wary of strange people is one thing. Being wary of strange people who only have (insert immutable trait) is bigotry and is always wrong.

This is kindergarten level shit

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Again, the definition of bigotry is ‘obstinate or unreasonable’ belief. Empirical data, and the experiences of women everyday, makes the caution reasonable. It is not bigotry for women to be cautious around men, especially strange men but even with men that women know (80% of rapes are perpetuated by someone the victim knows). Trust is earned and the default should always be caution, especially when the person you’re dealing with holds any sort of power over you (authority, physical strength, etc.).

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Empirical data, and the experiences of Whites everyday, makes the caution reasonable. It is not bigotry for Whites to be cautious around Blacks, especially strange Blacks but even with Blacks that Whites know (80% of rapes are perpetuated by someone the victim knows). Trust is earned and the default should always be caution, especially when the person you’re dealing with holds any sort of power over you (physical strength, etc.).

Literally you rn

[-] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

You understand the difference between those two posts.

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You have no argument so you are resorting to straw man arguments.

Make a valid argument or shut up.

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

You know you're wrong.

Your arguments are the arguments of the white supremacist and the segregationist. It is hate speech. And it is dangerous and is unprotected by the First Amendment and by the Terms of Service

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Make a valid argument and I’ll listen and consider. I am open to acknowledging that I am wrong, but you’ve failed to to make any form of reasonable argument beyond ‘nuh uh that sounds like racism’.

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