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submitted 10 months ago by ajsadauskas@aus.social to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

What can you get to within a 15-minute walk of your house?

A recent YouGov survey asked Americans what they think they should be able to get to within a 15-minute walk of their house.

Of these choices, I can currently walk to all of them from my apartment, aside from a university (no biggie, I'm not currently studying, although there is a Tafe within walking distance), a hospital, and a sports arena.

How many can you get to with a 15 minute walk from your house?

#fuckcars #walkability #urbanism #UrbanPlanning @fuck_cars #walking

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[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

I used to live in a small town, less than 20k people, I could walk to several instances of each of these things in about 10 minutes (except a university or hospital, which were a 15 minute drive away). This in Mexico.

I don't know why it couldn't be done in the US...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I don't live in a town at all. I live in the country. I don't want to walk to a grocery store 15 minutes away because I don't want them to cut down a bunch of trees or plow up a farmer's field to make one.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

I grew up in a village of 3000 in rural England. We had three pubs, a post office, two grocery/general stores, a butcher, a baker, a village hall, a doctor and a pharmacy, a primary and a secondary school, a church...

that is how life used to be for the majority of people across the world.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Great. I don't live in a village. I live out in the country. Are you saying we should chop down the woods and pave over the farm fields so that I can walk to a bunch of shops?

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

You can't give me half an ultimatum. Not that this is necessarily a dichotomy - but in this scenario you are setting up I don't understand what you're framing as the "good" option if the "bad" options is build a local shop?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I would say the good option would be to not pave over nature and farms for convenience's sake.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

so in your world view there is only "pave over farms" and "not"

what about drained marshland, deserts, tundra, non arable land, protected green spaces, farrow...

if there are only farms and pavement are you saying that suburbia doesn't exist? Are you saying that commuter belts are a fiction?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

There are only farms and woods around me.

If you want to pave over the Sahara, go for it. I don't want the countryside I am around paved over so that people can buy a Twinkie at 2 am.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

and there is no point within a two-mile radius of any property boundary where you live where you could build a single shop?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Without cutting down trees or paving over farm fields? No. Why are you so intent on nature being destroyed for the sake of capitalism?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That's your choice to live in bumfuck nowhere, this conversation isn't about you...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, my "choice" to get the only house my family could afford close enough to where we work.

How dare I choose to not be homeless!

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

So you could only afford a shit shack, therefore it wasn't your choice, yet somehow want to dictate how civilized places build infrastructure as if it was your choice? Do you need a dictionary to look up "hypocrisy"?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry, you want me to raise my family in a one-room hovel? Because I think "you didn't raise your child living like a medieval peasant, therefore you had a choice" is being a little pedantic.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, I think you should shut the fuck up when people are talking about how cities should be organized when you don't even live in one

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You don't look like a mod to me. But feel free to flag my comments and see if they agree that I shouldn't be allowed to say things in this community.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Your inability to think is astounding.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No one is forcing you to talk to someone who has the inability to think. If I thought that's who I was talking to, I'd stop replying. I guess you enjoy this conversation.

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Grocery stores can be small, also farmer towns exist where a small community lives with their farms around them. There are ways of doing it and it's done in several places.

But I concede that the bigger the place the easier it is to do a 15 minute city.

So, you're fine. Big cities and suburbs have no excuse, tho.

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