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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What part of a police officer's job is made impossible by wearing a scarf or a hat?

The government should not be forbidding anyone's religious practice. That being said, a patch on a uniform is not a religious obligation. Totally different category from a kippah, hijab, turban, ash, bindi, etc.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What part of a police officer's job is made impossible by wearing a scarf or a hat?

Neutrality. A police officer should be enforcing the law, not representing a religion. Luckily religious symbols in the Norwegian police force is still illegal (including christian symbols). And it should remain that way in a secular state

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That position requires a willful ignorance of the difference between a religious symbol and a religious practice.

Do you really think it's a coincidence that the law carves out a specific prohibition on religious practices that doesn't affect Christians, the dominant religious group? Your flag has a cross on it.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That position requires a willful ignorance of the difference between a religious symbol and a religious practice.

It's not about you any more. You're wearing a uniform, and religion is not a part of it. You're representing the law, not yourself.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why didn't you address their point? The flag has a cross on it

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's a part of our history, imagine that. Islam isn't

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see.

Well thanks for confirming some things I have always suspected about Christianity in general and European Christianity in particular.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"We can't allow distinctive religious or cultural symbols representing the state!"

"What about that one right there?"

"Well, obviously that one is allowed. It's a part of who we are!"

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Emphasis on "we"

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is the equality vs equity debate. Saying that you are banning all religious dress doesn't weigh equally on Christians vs non-Christians. Additionally even when it would there are loopholes given. The NT endorses woman to grow their hair long. The various security forces of the world usually allow woman to do it. So even the argument that you are treating every religion the same doesn't hold up.

A turban is not endorsement of Sikhism. By banning mandatory religious garments you are just promising that the police do not reflect the demographics of the area. Which is not a great thing.

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