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So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can't fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

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[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 24 points 8 months ago

ITT: people reallly pulling for a rapist.

I'm honestly with OP on this one. Rape is up there with torture and child abuse. You've gotta be a real scumbag to do it. It's not something you get pressed into by circumstance, like e.g. stabbing someone in a bar fight. At some point, the right of everyone else to be free of threat outweighs one guy's right to reintegrate with society.

OP, you live in the US, and you have 2nd Amendment rights. Start carrying to work.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

I'm not "for"anyone here, but "carry a loaded weapon to work" sounds like the worst advice possible. I guess you could justify that workplace safety isn't a thing, but that's no reason to throw kerosene into a fire.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You do not have a 2nd Amendment right at work. Your employer controls your ability to carry on their property.

Edit to Add - it's not about the Rape part. It's about the Ex Felon part. Today it's a Rapist. Tomorrow it's the guy who stole bread for his family. The day after that no one can ever be released so we bring back lifetime indentured servitude. We've seen this story before and it ended with a civil war over slavery and a civil rights movement.

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago

"Not wanting to work with a multiple rapist is the same as slavery"

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Well no. That's a radical simplification. I'm explaining how this impulse led to slavery back in the day. As a result, locking people up forever as a matter of course turns out to be a really bad idea.

However this is exactly the level of discourse I've come to expect in regards to protecting society from conservative excess.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

You don’t answer the question about how this person can support themselves. They committed a horrible crime, but have served their time. It isn’t pulling for a rapist, it’s wanting to see someone rehabilitated.

People on one hand say they want to rehabilitate offenders. But when it comes to it, they want to permanently ostracize them, prevent them from working, and prevent them doing the daily tasks of living. You think they are a threat, wait until they are forced to live in the streets starving and see how they will lash out.

And are you seriously defending stabbing someone in a bar fight?

And, no, you don’t have the right to carry a gun on someone else’s property, including your employer’s.

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 4 points 8 months ago

I can absolutely see how someone who gets into fights can be rehabilitated. You can work with anger management, threat responses, removal of triggers, avoiding people or areas that cause the behavior, etc.

Rape? It's an intentional, sadistic crime. I don't really see how rehab would even work with a multiple rapist.

wanting to see someone rehabilitated

Tossing somebody on the street and hoping for the best isn't rehab. Rehab involves active monitoring, behavioral modification, restrictions on liberties, etc. It also involves owning up to your crime to the community. If that makes life harder for the offender, that is their burden to bear.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I don’t see why rehabilitation wouldn’t work. It either works or doesn’t. And OP says nothing about being a multiple rapist. Sure, maybe some crimes like murder you forfeit the right to be rehabilitated, but that isn’t what has been charged here.

And, sorry, violent crime can be every bit as intentional and sadistic as rape.

And where is your evidence he was just tossed on the street? He no doubt is being monitored by a parole officer and may very be receiving behavioral modification therapy.

And you are not merely making life “harder” you are making life impossible and pushing him to reoffend.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 8 months ago

They don't because the answer is simple: YOU feed them, since you want to protect and defend rapists, and thus rape itself.

Or just put them back into jail for life. They're a rapist. They don't belong here no matter how much you want them to be, and the fact this was even allowed to happen in the first place is a testament to how you have caused society to destroy itself by defending rape.

Their inability to feed themselves is simply not our problem. They brought that onto themselves. We don't have to let them into our communities and you can't force us to.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Fuck off, asshole. I am not defending rape.

It’s our problem when you want to take the ability for them to care for themselves.

And it’s not that I want them to be. It’s that society has determined they have served their time. You seem to want to force them into recidivism, which supports rape more than anything I said.

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Mate he's an idiot at best and a troll at worst. He thinks I'm sexist because I find the idea of lifetime imprisonment a "disgusting sentiment". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago

Yes the fuck you are, you vile, disgusting rape apologist. You and your ilk have:

  • Told us that rape is more recoverable than murder, therefore it's not as bad
  • Insisted society has an obligation to feed people and therefore a known sexual predator has rights that supercede the rights of his victims or potential victims that would be violated if the company fired them to protect the rest of the workplace
  • That a company would have no liability to protect its women workers and that, in fact, the woman would create a hostile work environment for the rapist by complaining about it
  • That women should just shut up and get over it, and suffer the presence of a rapist.

These are positions your little cult have argued, hiding behind flowery language and Motte-and-bailey arguments, and you will NOT escape responsibility for your words.

You are a rape apologist. Period.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 8 months ago

The fact that people on this platform are siding with the rapist is either evidence for bot activity or a sign the platform should be isolated and defederated from everyone else.

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