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So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can't fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 46 points 8 months ago

Agreeing with OP is the same as saying you don't believe people can change or get better.

[-] jaek@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, it isn't. You can fully believe in people's ability to rehabilitate and change, while also being aware that not everyone rehabilitates and changes.

The needs of the perpetrator of a crime need to be balanced against the needs of society at large. This is why you get your license taken away from you when you drink and drive, or why you end up on a sex offenders register.

In this case, there's a valid argument to be made that this person represents a danger to society, and the need to protect/inform people from him outweighs his desire to not have past crimes revealed.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

If you can get a psychologist to sign off on him having uncontrollable urges then yeah. Otherwise he needs the same chances as every other ex felon.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

So what is this guy supposed to do to support himself?

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Obvious. More crime.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You can feed and house them, of course.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

No, people should be able to feed and house themselves.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, they should be able to feed and house themselves, which they can't do if they're being forced to work around a rapist.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

You can fully believe in people's ability to rehabilitate and change, while also being aware that not everyone rehabilitates and changes. (...) In this case, there's a valid argument to be made that this person represents a danger to society

What is that valid argument? OP said that indicates an ongoing danger, and if they're an ongoing danger, what do we do in response to that beyond not covering up their crimes (which are already reported on the sex offender registry)?

The law is far from perfect, but it's hard to overstate the danger of basing the rule of law on vibes - which you appear to be doing.

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