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submitted 10 months ago by lars@lemmy.sdf.org to c/196

according to @Custoslibera’s post

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You actually kind of have liberalism wrong as well though. It's the idea that individual liberty creates political agency. From that we get the ideas around inclusive society being critical to a functioning democracy, because democratic participation is the intersection of inclusion, liberty and individual actualization.

Or rather, people must first be free to engage with political questions out in the open (liberty). Then they must feel like they have a stake in society (inclusion). Then they must have the time and resources to participate (actualization). This is the foundation of liberal democracy.

What you are describing is commonly considered a form of liberalism, but is more aptly described as progressive liberalism. You are definitely correct though, that many forms of leftism and liberalism are compatible, despite people on Lemmy insisting otherwise.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

I've also heard what I'm describing as liberal as "classic liberal".

It's not worth getting into tbh. I've been down this road so many times today, if you really want to engage in paragraphs of texts debating semantics you are welcome to check out all the parallel replies lol.

Appreciate your response though.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah I see that now. I am not surprised the internet leftists jumped on you tbh. Their knowledge of political science is marginal at best.

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