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What's America's view on this Tucker Carlson?

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[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

If the US actually got involved air superiority would be the least of our worries. The minute any major NATO nation gets properly involved, the war goes nuclear very soon after

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 69 points 10 months ago

Putin said that about lethal aid, Putin said that about tanks, Putin said that about f-16s, etc. Will Putin really start Wolrd War 3 over The Donbas and Crimea?

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

I'm betting there are a lot of people under Putin that don't want to die for his stupidity.

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

There are people over Putin too. No ruler can rule alone and without consent, his rich oligarch buddies don’t want to cruise their yachts during nuclear winter.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Really dampens the mood. Not even the model-prostitutes will want to fuck in such dreary weather. Not that their consent matters to the oligarch.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 10 months ago

Mutually assured destruction is pretty much why no one will ever actually go through with that if their target also has nukes or is protected by a country that has them. It's one of the major reasons no country that has nukes wants to disarm.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Ask Libya and Ukraine how that worked out

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry... do you think Libya with nuclear weapons under Gaddafi would have been a good idea?

[-] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Gaddafi would still be alive. Dictators now need nuclear weapons to assure survival. Look for the world to get real crazy real fast.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

There are 57 dictatorships in the world. Almost none of them have nuclear weapons.

https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/

[-] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

You realize Muammar Gaddafi only died 12 years ago and Russia only invaded Ukraine two years ago? Nuclear weapon programs take at least that long to develop. Ukraine and Libya had programs (Ukraine actually had weapons) and abandoned them, much to their demise. If they kept their programs, they wouldn't have had these problems.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Okay, but that's not what you said before. You claimed, and as I pasted: "Dictators now need nuclear weapons to assure survival."

Please explain how the vast majority of dictatorships are surviving without them. Or do all 57 have nuclear weapons?

[-] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Many of them will lack the lasting power of North Korea.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Please provide evidence for this claim. An age of dictatorships chart will do.

You aren't just making that up, right? You do have the data, don't you?

[-] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

The key word in my comment is "will." That's a prediction. You can ping me in 25 years to see if this works out. In the mean time, people are taking this prediction seriously (it isn't only my prediction) when discussing global politics.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

They should have thought of that before co-signing the Budapest accords. At least two NATO countries are already involved.

The last time Russian units engaged Americans in combat they were so outmatched that the Russian chain of command disavowed their own guys and pretended not to know them. Nuclear conflagration would be a much better death by comparison.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago
[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Press (formally Twitter) to doubt.

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