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[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Natural gas is produced as a byproduct of gasoline production. He hasn't done shit besides screw us out of access to a cleaner energy source we're already producing.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You can re-inject it into the reservoir instead of burning it and dumping the resulting CO2 into the atmosphere. He's done a good thing here, especially light of the incredible death toll from the by-products of combustion.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 53 points 11 months ago

these are export terminals.. which are used by the industry to sell the product for more profit than they can get selling it domestically. it also eliminates the ocean-crossing trips made by those pollution-spouting tankers to deliver the product overseas.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 41 points 11 months ago

This will drive down domestic energy prices as well. So naturally, Fox News cannot cover this

[-] sonori@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago

Na, they’ll cover it twenty four seven as an example of the radical left driving up energy prices for hardworking americans, full well knowing that anyone who would do more then take everything they say at face value has long since left.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Shit, you’re right. I was thinking of 2014 Fox News, not 2024 Fox News

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 43 points 11 months ago

Natural gas is commonly produced by fracking. And also, this is about export terminals.

[-] Jondar@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Natural gas comes out of the ground naturally, and isn't necessarily a by-product of gasoline refinement. I can't speak from experience on the refinery side of things, but I can speak from experience on the upstream production side of things. The natural gas we use for power generation, and heat at the facility I work at essentially comes straight out of the ground with minimal processing. Any excess is put back in the ground. That's specific to where I work. I imagine other places, the gas is separated out like we do and sent to "the market."

[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Huh, TIL you can put it back in the ground. I was under the impression it had to be burned off.

[-] Jondar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yep! There are two types of oil wells, producers and injectors. Producers produce raw production fluids and gas. Those production fluids/gases need to go through a 3-phase separate vessel to separate the oil, water, and gas. The water and gas is sent back into the ground with the injection wells. The reason for this is to maintain the pressure of the reservoir underground, and to dispose of the fluids/gases.

Some amount of gas is flared (burned) off from the separation facility, and also from refineries. The purpose of the flare is for process safety. If there's an overpressure event, or an equipment shutdown, all the gas production from the field needs to go somewhere while the production wells are shutdown. For that time period, any gas is burned off to prevent a catastrophic failure in the facility.

The amount of gas being flared is monitored and regulated, and any flare event is recorded and reported to the appropriate agencies, generally the EPA, and Relevant state agencies.

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