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[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 1 year ago

Capitalism may hold us back in some regards but really helps in others.

The majority of people would likely be feudal peasants, working under a warmonger family that owns the sustaining land by force. No upward mobility except through bloodshed.

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

I suppose not much has changed then

[-] lone_faerie 34 points 1 year ago

The majority of people ~~would likely be~~ are feudal peasants, working under a warmonger family that owns the sustaining land by force. No upward mobility except through bloodshed.

FTFY

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

No you don’t understand, this 9-to-5 job that’s slowly but surely wearing me down is just a stepping stone to my millions of $$. That’s why I keep voting for tax breaks for the rich; because I’ve just been temporarily down on my luck for 30 years. /s

[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

No, if you're lucky, clever enough, overwork yourself, or manipulate others you can live a somewhat comfortable life. Those methods don't require taking a life.

[-] lone_faerie 9 points 1 year ago

overwork yourself

comfortable life

Make it make sense

[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Comfortable as in "you have a heated living space, food on the table, and security." Don't be dense.

[-] lone_faerie 3 points 1 year ago

That's not living comfortably, that's the bare minimum everybody should have

[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago

Capitalism optimizes for efficiency. Sadly slavery is terribly efficient in terms of economics. Therefore capitalism needs to be capped by society at certain acceptable limits. Which is called socioeconomics and its not perfect but the best system we have. insert handwavy remark about whatever america is doing here

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the problem with this is that we depend on the capitalist overlords to keep their pinky promise of not fucking with our rights.

right now they are breaking it again because they can.

i also don't think having the majority of the money/value going to a few owners is efficient at all.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago

That's literally how it is now

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thats still in a sense a commerce based system. The only reason that warlord fights for that land is because it has value, be it food, a cash crop, a strategic location.

Warlords hoarded land and power in similar ways billionaires hoard money and power.

[-] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Capitalism optimises for concentrating resources.

Dividends, return on investment, profits, etc. are all inefficiencies in the production of value, and require more resources, labor, and suffering per unit of value than for example a circular economy.

But it does concentrate wealth efficiently, which in turn gives access to enough resources to start larger ventures.

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