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[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

I clean my room because it gives me a feeling of order.
I do not work because i like work.
I work because i have to so that my children don't

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

You like the feeling of order, so you work. Seems like a non-monetary motivation for me.

You also think worker ownership of the Means of Production is Capitalism if it has profit, so I think you'd do better by actually researching what you talk about first.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

No i like it when my room is orderly.
Learn to read.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, and you aren't paid to do so. Sounds like non-monetary motivation.

Why do you think Socialism is Capitalism?

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

No, my motivatiopn is me thinking of myself. I would never in a million years go work in a mine if i didnt get compensated for it monetarily. I do more risky and hard work than a teacher so i should also be rewarded more than a teacher.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

You're a landlord, lmao.

But either way, even if you're fully self-interested, you still work for non-monetary reasons.

Again, please address why you think Socialism is actually Capitalism, we can't even begin to discuss a future system like Communism if you can't even understand Socialism.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Where did i ever say socialism is capitalism? Are you twisting words so that your narrative works again? Typical communist

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Right here: "I was specifically asking for communes and you show me coops that still have capitalist gain in mind. Delusional"

Worker co-operatives are Socialist structures, what separates Capitalism from Socialism is the distribution of ownership of the Means of Production.

Again, we cannot even hope to discuss a post-Socialist system like Communism without first understanding Socialism, and we can't discuss Socialism without understanding Capitalism. You don't even understand Capitalism if you equate it to profit.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

If not single peerson owns = socialist? Are you 12?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Equal, collective ownership via workers is Socialist. You're pulling the superiority card because it's your way of avoiding actually having to logically comprehend Socialism, which is why anything you say can be tossed in the trash regarding leftism, or even Capitalism.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

What's the point of you trying to engage with my comment first, then running away without actually saying anything?

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

[...] which is why anything you say can be tossed in the trash [...]

You have no intention of discussing. Your intention is narcisistic belittlement of people you deem to be "the enemy".
I concede. You are the smarter person. You are grand.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

What is Capitalism? What is Socialism?

Think about those questions before you mouth off next time, it'll go better for you.

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