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How do you cope with the state of the world today? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by raynethackery@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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Everything just seems so out of control. The US seems to be tearing itself apart. The world is on fire. We seem to be going backwards when it comes to freedom and human rights. We've turned our backs on each other. How do you cope with all this without just giving up?

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[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago

On average the world is better than it's ever been. Higher life expectancies, less war, better quality of life; it's all generally on the up. Would you rather go back to the last financial crisis? When the ozone layer was being depleted? The interment threat of nuclear annihilation? Race riots? Women not being able to vote? High infant mortality? etc, etc

[-] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

There is less war, but that's not always a great indicator. Depending on how you define "war" you could even define Ukraine/Russian war not as a war.

Life expectancy is going up because of 3rd world countries finally catching up. It's going down in America.

The "world" is also getting richer. But the average person is getting poorer.

Also ozone layer isn't doing great, there are race riots still, there is threat of nuclear war with Russia existing in its current state, a lot of rights are threatened and a lot of people want to return to a time before women's suffrage. I haven't looked up anything on infant mortality, but I imagine with abortion band happening that will also change for the worse.

The only peace I've found is action.

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

This is such a short-sighted and USA-centric response. Your life expectancy seems fine, and even if there were a blip I'm sure it will continue to increase on average. Wealth is not an objective measure of quality of life. The ozone layer repaired itself. Even in America you've got a lot less lynching than you used to have. Speak to anyone who lived through the cold war and tell them you think nuclear war is just as much of a threat now as it was then.

[-] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I do have arguments against all of what you said. But the funniest one is definitely the ozone layer.

You sure you want to say the ozone layer is fine? When was the last time you looked at anything talking about it?

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

As a result of the scientific findings and the possible severe impacts of ozone depletion, governments around the world began passing laws reducing or banning the production of CFCs and other ODSs. This culminated in the Montreal Protocol, agreed in 1987, which has now been signed by every member state of the United Nations. Signatories to the Montreal Protocol have agreed to phase out ODSs and replace them with less-damaging substances.

Since the passing of the Montreal Protocol, the emissions of ODSs have fallen to a fraction of their levels in the early 1980s and the ozone layer has begun to recover. The hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica still exists, but it has been slowly shrinking over the past two decades thanks to concerted international action.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/climate/climate-explained/ozone-layer

So not completely back to how it was before we fucked it, but the problem has been fixed

[-] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

"By taking a holistic look at the yearly progression of the Antarctic ozone hole over the last two decades, we find that:

The addition of recent years to the Antarctic (60°S–90°S) total column ozone time series results in insignificant long-term change since the early 2000’s, even where significant recovery has previously been reported. During this time, we find a delay in both the deep ozone hole onset date as well as the breakup date."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-42637-0

Tl:dr if all you're doing is looking at the peak/minimum times of year it can seem better. The hole "breathes" and they're getting delayed.

I work on diesel trucks, they create a lot of N0x. This article talks about how N0x being bad. It's a niche thing but I at least understand why I tend to see these things first.

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Ah bugger

[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Less war?

There's a genocide going on in the middle east right now by settler colonialist fully backed by the western powers to destabilize the region and I'm sure you know that, it's just irrelevant to you.

There're too many neoliberals on lemmy, I can't even deal fam

[-] Pohl@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

There were at least 2 other genocides in progress the last October when this mess started. You only care about this one because you have been told to.

Neoliberalism is really an economic philosophy. It doesn’t really have a lot to say about how a nation ought to position itself toward foreign wars. It’s not an all purpose slur for people who disagree with you.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

On average the world is better than it's ever been

Of course, certain groups of people have been trying to reverse these trends in the name of...money? Tradition?

The newer generations are no longer becoming smarter (I believe it was the Flynn effect). Education is being defunded at all levels.

The cost of living in many parts of the world has been outpacing wages... especially now, but for decades. Yet we have more wealth hoarded into fewer hands.

Anti-vax and anti-science movements have been reintroducing measles and have been making it hard to fight other diseases.

We are seeing the effects of these things in action, and they will only get worse over time.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Some people argue that humanity was never freer, happier and healthier than before the agricultural revolution. Everything has gone to shit since we decided to settle down on a small plot of land.

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

It was much simpler when you were born, miraculously survived childhood, hunted, gathered, then died before your back even had time to get sore

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