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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago

Said guy whose government is arresting people for protesting genocide this government support.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago

This might have some truth to it, but you're derailing.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Derailing from what? The genocidal support govt actually being "authoritarian" right now on the streets, trying to scaremonger people by their political opponent being more "authoritarian" in theory and in the future?

This is by itself 100% derailing tactic against the critiques falling on them. Maybe if they try to address the actual issues they wouldn't have to fear far-right party which was marginal few years ago.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe if they try to address the actual issues they wouldn't have to fear far-right party which was marginal few years ago.

I think you know that one cannot engage by politics with Nazis to turn them. Far-right ideologies weren't marginal, they simply had no platform, the backlash of 2015 (nine years ago) didn't came out of nowhere.

The situation in the Middle East is sad, but it is not the "actual issue" in Germany at the moment.

  • The AfD will not scrap their plans if the situation in the Middle East improves.
  • Racist, far-right voters will not stop being racist, far-right voters if the situation in the Middle East improves.
  • Racist, far-right media will not stop being racist, far-right media if the situation in the Middle East improves.

Planning the deportation of millions of people based on racism from Germany is more relevant to German politics and this discussion at the moment than the politics of the Middle East that may or may not resemble this.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

AfD is pretty much irrelevant in this deliberation, entire point of this news is that German govt, which is currently supporting genocide, literally transplant US political rhetorics in the system different than US, blackmailing you and everyone (unless you are actually in favour of genocide?). Last when i check Germany isn't even a two party system so there's more parties to choice and i'm sure not all of them are genocidal.

Genocide is the actual issue, as is the government repressing people protesting against it.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago
[-] java@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

Derailing from what?

It's funny that you asked. Kinda shows that you didn't even read the title of the post, let alone the article. It's just "yeah, German politics, let me write what bothers me!!"

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

It's funny that you can't even form a coherent argument, and instead just deflect from the very real issue of supporting genocide.

[-] java@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

What else bothers you? Why don't we discuss under the post about AfD that the weather in Poland could be better in Junary, and then blame me for deflecting from the very real issue of bad weather in Poland in January, eh?

[-] guriinii@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

And a government that is backing a genocidal regime in the ICJ, and selling them arms.

[-] Tarte@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nobody was arrested for protesting against Israel or genocide in Germany. That's a blatant lie. Some people are being arrested temporary for their call to murder all Jews. There is a clear difference: There are thousands of people protesting peacefully against Israel's war - only a few of them are overstepping hard while doing so. Stopping these select people from committing further crimes in accordance with the state of law is called nuance.

Don't commit crimes in Germany (call for murder) and nobody will arrest you.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Nobody was arrested for protesting against Israel or genocide in Germany. That’s a blatant lie.

You are spreading blatant lies.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/germany-palestine-protest/

The German state’s show of support has led to an outright banning of most pro-Palestine protests.

On October 13, Berlin police declared uttering the slogan “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” forbidden and indictable.

minors arrested for wearing the colors of the Palestinian flag, a woman of Jewish-Israeli descent detained for carrying an anti-war message in Herrmannplatz, a central square in Neukölln.

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