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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by SteelBeard@lemmy.world to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

Edit: A lot of people are asking why Beehaw did this. I want to keep this post informational and not color it with my personal opinion. I am adding a link to the Beehaw announcement if you are interested in reading it, you can form your own views. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

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[-] NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

I disagree, they definitely don't want their own mini Lemmy. They want a safe space they are happy with, and defederation the only way they can do that with Lemmy's current mod tools.

Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works make up about 20% of the acitve users in the threadiverse (source). That is a lot, and it sucks, but it's far off from making beehaw an isolated instance.

Imo for now new users should be discouraged from joining Beehaw, lemmy.world, and sh.itjust.works, since all the content can be seen from other instances anyways.

[-] ItsaB3AR@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Fair point. But I will say as a pretty new comer to Lemmy, it is hard to find an instance that you know will be a good fit.

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

"Safe space" for who?

They want a political echochamber.

[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago

When your life and right to exist as who you are is political, it's nice to not have to deal with "debates" over that.

Beehaw is pretty explicitly a safe space for queer people and other members of minority groups, and their allies or just anyone who can take the time not to be bigoted or "Just Ask Questions". They don't exactly hide this fact ;p

They are much more proactive about it than other places, sometimes too much for my personal tastes (though I think about making an account there for when I don't feel up for dealing with shit >.<) even if I respect what they are doing.

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I don't agree at all. The fact of the matter is I can't even talk about my lived experiences being nonbinary in beehaw so to call it a safe space for minorities is blatantly false.

This is the "I have a black friend" of online communities.

[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago

From what I see, you said you said something about your ex """pushing""" their daughter "into" LGBTQ. Which is stupid. 99.999% of the time this a bad faith argument from trolls and even if not you cant make someone queer just as much as you can't make someone straight or cis. Queer people are exposed to intense social pressure to be cishet and yet we are still not. You can feel pressure into hiding or self-repressing or self-denying, but that's a different thing >.<

Also, you can be bigoted while bieng a part of a minority group.

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