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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 221 points 2 years ago

That's nice. Let me know when they're $30 again.

[-] DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 years ago

Yea. I miss those days.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wouldn't expect that kind of price anymore except for the Zero models.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 96 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't expect it either, which is why these things don't make sense anymore, and why I actually recently passed them up for an X86 competitor. Prices of RPi's have inflated, supply has gone down to nothing, and all the while all sorts of competition has entered the SBC scene that provides a much better value.

Don't get me wrong, I love the RPi and I feel like a real cool nerd with bare PCBs sitting around my house, but they're just too expensive now.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 61 points 2 years ago

Yep. The initial idea was to have a cheap SBC, that you could give to an entire classroom without being worried too much if some of them break. 35€ are not exactly cheap, but doable. 80-90€ is simply not viable for that purpose anymore.

At the same time, for more serious projects, it's lacking too many features like sata, pcie, etc., etc.

I feel like RPi is coasting on momentum, without a clear direction.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago

The initial idea was to have a cheap SBC, that you could give to an entire classroom without being worried too much if some of them break.

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

I'd rather have x86 tbh. Thanks for letting me know these exist.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago

A refurbished thin client from eBay. Or a refubed sff/usff.
They are pretty much the same price these days, and come with a case/PSU.
If you don't need the GPIO and special connectors that a raspberry pi has, sff/usff is going to be cheaper, has upgradeable ram&sata and some have pcie3.0 slot.
Running pihole (let's be honest, a huge reason people buy a pi)? Get a usff/sff, slap an SSD (probably the cost of a raspberry pi case/PSU/SD-card) in there and an intel i340-t4 4port NIC (this is extra. Can just use the onboard NIC), and install proxmox. Then run pihole in a VM. And now you have spare capacity to run a whole bunch of other fun things, with the safety net of snapshots and backups so if you mess up a config you can just roll another VM.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

I was in the market for something low budget with two nics for a local firewall. Since this gave me a nice discount on top, I ordered a zimaboard now as it's pretty much exactly what I need. Thanks for the tip

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago

Biggest benefit of those things is that they come with SATA ports so you can use them to build a <$100 2-bay NAS which is about half the price of popular competitors but with way more power.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Damn. Looked decent until I got to $30 on shipping.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

They'll probably be available on Amazon eventually

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

If you click through to crowd supply it's only $8, which is less ridiculous.

But you lose the ability to have them toss a cable or two into the box at no real extra shipping cost to them, and I highly doubt their costs aren't lower through their website.

Wasn't actually pulling the trigger today either way, but it's an odd setup.

[-] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Oh cool! I didn't know about this. Thanks for sharing.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

That's fine, but that means that it's no longer anything special for a lot of the home server stuff a lot of people do with them.

There are loads of cheap, small (not as small, but small enough for most people not to care) used x86 systems (eg thinkcentre) that I can grab instead.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The pi 4 is literally $35 right now. The original pi, adjusted for inflation, was $47.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

The cheapest rpi that isn't a zero or pico started at $35. You can buy a Pi 4 Model B 1GB for $35 on pishop.us right now.

The pi 5 won't ever be $35 because that's not the price point it was designed to hit. That's why they have a range of products, so you can buy the one that fits your budget.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 18 points 2 years ago

Can't do much with 1GB. And the Pi4 isn't part of a "product range", it's the previous generation product.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Of course the pi 4 is still part of the product range. It's still being actively manufactured and sold. Same for the pi3.

As far as memory size, that wasn't part of your original complaint. You want a $35 computer, that's how much you get. The original pi was $35 and had 256mb of ram.

-edit also, $35 in 2012 is $47 today with inflation. The pi 4 is a crazy good deal and readily available. This complaint just has no merit.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Of course the pi 4 is still part of the product range. It's still being actively manufactured and sold.

Its a 5-year old product. With 5 year old specs.

As far as memory size, that wasn't part of your original complaint.

Yes I also didn't specify a clock speed, storage size, network speed, etc. What I meant was a modern version of an old product with similarly modern specs.

$35 in 2012 is $47 today

And yet the Pi5 starts at $60.

You're also missing the other half of this conversation where other SBCs have come way down in price.

Le Potato, Orange Pi, Zima products, Rockchip, not to mention all the X86 mini PCs, old office PCs, etc.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

This is just goal moving at this point. And stating just plain incorrect facts. I'm out.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago

I'm not moving the goal posts, you just ignored one of them.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I didn't ignore anything. You edited your reply to make it look like I did.

I replied at 7:31GMT. You replied to that at 7:34GMT. You edited your original post at 7:44GMT for some reason.

This isn't reddit where you can't see when or if someone edited their comment.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah no shit. I didn't remove anything. Just added it. The part you ignored is still there.

Go ahead and honor your promise to be "out".

[-] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Its a 5-year old product. With 5 year old specs.

It's a Pi. Cutting edge (or even modern or high end) specs have never been it's selling point or goal.

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