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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 25 points 8 months ago

If OpenAI is right (I think they are) one of two things need to happen.

  1. All AI should be open source and non-profit
  2. Copywrite law needs to be abolished

For number 1. Good luck for all the reasons we all know. Capitalism must continue to operate.

For number 1. Good luck because those in power are mostly there off the backs of those before them (see Disney, Apple, Microsoft, etc)

Anyways, fun to watch play out.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's a third solution you're overlooking.

3: OpenAI (or other) wins a judgment that AI content is not inherently a violation of copyright regardless of materials it is trained upon.

[-] Hedgehawk@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

It's not really about the AI content being a violation or not though is it. It's more about a corporation using copyrighted content without permission to make their product better.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

If it's not a violation of copyright then this is a non-issue. You don't need permission to read books.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

AI does not “read books” and it’s completely disingenuous to compare them to humans that way.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

That's certainly an opinion you have

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Backed by technical facts.

AIs fundamentally process information differently than humans. That’s not up for debate.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Yes this is an argument in my favor, you just don't understand AI/LLMs enough to know why.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I could say the same about you, considering I’ve watched you peddle false information for months about this subject.

AI learns differently than humans. That isn’t a fact up for debate. That’s one of the few objective truths around this industry.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I work with AI every day at my job. My buddy is a literal AI researcher and we hobby-build together too.

I'm not concerned with what you think is "objective truth" when you have no idea what you're talking about.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Ok and?

That doesn’t mean it’s any less theft, or that you have any idea what you’re talking about.

https://www.rws.com/blog/large-language-models-humans/

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/rjghymycfrMY2aRk5/llm-cognition-is-probably-not-human-like

There’s also countless papers on google scholar that point out the differences.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

My entire premise hinges on the fact that these papers agree with me.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

You use an AI to help you come up with your talking points at your job at the IOF?

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Similarly I don't read "War and Peace" and then use that to go and write "Peace and War"

[-] the_ocs@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

There's no open source without copyright, only public domain

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago

If all is public domain, all is open source

[-] the_ocs@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Open source also includes viral licenses like the GPL. Without copyright, the GPL is not enforceable.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

It doesn't have to be. One leak and the code is open for all

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