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Those seem incompatible to me.

(UBI means Universal Basic Income, giving everyone a basic income, for free)

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[-] Atin@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

If I could afford to only work 4 days a week, those 4 days would most likely be a lot more productive as I would have time to get treatment for my chronic illnesses.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

I have been told by HR last year to use my surplus vacation days somewhere. I used them on every Monday for half a year. I got not only more productive, but also less stressed. It works.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah as an industrial/human factors engineer it’s our profession’s dirty little secret. It doesn’t apply to every job, but improvement to work quality does. Reducing shift length also does. Hours 7-8 are rarely very productive for thinky workers.

Unfortunately nobody has managed to successfully explain the concept of mathematics or empirical evidence to businesspeople. Sometimes I wonder if they have thoughts beyond gut instinct.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Oh they do understand mathematics alright. As long as it's adding numbers to their net worth

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I can manage financially with 2 days of work a week, and I'm now at a point where I would not want to scale back because my work would become of lower quality. Every Monday would be like coming back from a vacation, and I think I'd lose touch and feel with the job.

Those 5 days weekend sure give me time for personally enriching hobbies!

[-] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Society couldn't function if most people worked like you. I'm happy for you and it's the exact place I want to be but I think its only possible in our current framework.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

With increasing automation, it could totally work soon

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Also, a fair bit of work is work for the sake of work. It doesn’t enrich society, just the capitalism machine. So if UBI were enacted on a large scale, there is plenty of unnecessary work that can go by the wayside.

[-] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Who determines its unnecessary? The market? Government groups?

[-] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

We're still a far way away from the level of automation necessary to make working only 2 days a week feasible imo

[-] moriquende@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It actually could. Imagine if salary had increased in accordance to the productivity boosts that automation has brought. Then you could have 3 people, working 2 days a week, sharing a job and being able to live from it. After all, it used to take more than 3 people to do the work a single person does nowadays.

[-] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Why would a business pay for these things that make their workers more efficient and then relinquish all of the profit that came from making things more efficient?

[-] DeadlineX@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

There’s a difference between “society couldn’t function” and “companies are too greedy”. One of them is wrong and the other needs to change.

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