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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 74 points 9 months ago

Well that's not great... They're already pretty expensive as it is.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago

yeah i thought 4TB would be like $50 now. whatever happened to moore's law

[-] Lath@kbin.social 55 points 9 months ago

Unregulated capitalism some would say, I say cheap production costs with little to no consequence whatsoever for them doing this kind of thing.

[-] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Exactly, if forced scarcity was regulated, we’d be in an entirely different situation. For instance diamonds would be practically worthless.

[-] fugacity@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Unless this is a matter of price collusion (which I doubt as it appears more as a supply demand issue) I don't think this unregulated capitalism is bad. Last I checked making any kind of products involving semiconductors isn't cheap or easy. Maybe it is once you figure out how to, but the R&D costs involved are insane.

We as consumers want prices as low as possible. Suppliers want prices as high as possible. Samsung (and the like) clearly aren't willing to make more of a product at the price that it is currently at (which is a mistake to begin with). There are plentu of other players making ssds, and the prices are all very similar. Something tells me that they're not gonna price things for cheaper because they can't survive that way.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I thought Moore's law was only for CPUs/chip density?

[-] mihnt@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit doubles about every two years. Moore's law is an observation and projection of a historical trend.

It is.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's about the shrinking in integrated circuit feature size, hence increase in IC element densities, so it applies to memories which are integrated circuits such as flash memory and the various kinds of RAM, but not to magnetic storage such as in HDDs as they're something else altogether.

That said, I believe (but am not absolutelly sure) that IC feature size has been shrinking slower than Moore's Law predicts for maybe a decade as the size of the features becomes so small that quantum-level effects start becoming a problem (think stuff like signal leaks due to quantum tunnelling).

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

As tech shrinks it’s only getting more and more expensive per mm. Unless we get some major improvement we’re kinda at the limit for the moment.

[-] fugacity@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Moore's law makes no comments about the cost of each transistor in an advanced process. And believe me, they ain't cheap. It's not a coincidence we're up to PLC flash... why go for 32 levels when TLC is likely already a pain?

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, spend $200 on a 4tb m.2 gen4, or $200 on a 18tb hdd

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

You couldnt even get a good 4tb sata ssd for 50€ what made you hope for nvme?

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

SSDs are absurdly cheap at the moment. 2023s demand glut led to a huge over abundance of SSDs and dirt cheap prices.

[-] NoRodent@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Right? SATA III SSDs currently cost the same as HDDs of the same capacity, at least where I live. If it stays like that, it will no longer make any sense to buy HDDs. Finally.

I still remember buying my first SSD some 10 years ago which at the time cost 20 times more per GB of what it costs now.

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