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submitted 1 year ago by jmp242@sopuli.xyz to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

Ok, I can get sort of disagreeing the wildfires are from climate change - that's a couple of logical steps you have to make. But "It's not causing anyone to cough" is plainly ludicrous. It was making me cough when I went outside.

"It doesn't smell bad"? Maybe they have COVID and lost their sense of smell altogether? It certainly smelled bad to me. And if you thought it smelled great - wow. I just don't ever want to be around you if you like those sorts of smells. I can't see it actually working with anyone who's ever been in wildfire smoke before - like you don't need science or education or anything to notice if it makes you cough, or tell something doesn't smell great.

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[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago

Let's be real. A lot of these people don't actually believe anything that comes out of their mouth, but if they think it'll trigger a liberal they're down with it.

[-] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

I especially don't get this "dying to trigger the libs". Interesting tactic I have to say. I am not compelled to try and trigger anyone - are they all trolls now or something? I have more interesting things to do than to cut off my nose to piss someone else off.

[-] overfox@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

I think there is a lot of pride to be conservative coming into play here. Hard to explain, but I sometimes see this in my family. They proudly present their ignorance to show off their conservativism, hold it in front of them like a banner. When I inquire a bit deeper their views are often a bit more reasonable, it just feels like average boomers wanting to be cool by flaunting their ignorance, as weird as this sounds.

[-] pieceofcrazy@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah it feels like most right wing people are more progressive than they think.

I'm not from the U.S. but everytime I talk with a conservative we agree on a lot of things once they stop talking with slogans

[-] overfox@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

That's my experience too. Often when I talk to people they have pretty moderate or left-leaning views that would fit well in any of our more left-leaning parties. However the majority of them still votes for our biggest conservative party, which openly promises and does the opposite of what they claim they would want in a conversation. Frustrating.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

The documentary Behind the Curve explores this idea a bit. It follows die hard flat earthers around their daily lives to get to know them a bit more.

There's a running theme throughout the movie that these people weren't very happy with their lives prior to becoming flat earthers. Joining the "movement" gave them instant friends and a sense of direction. There's subtle hints now and again that most don't actually believe the Earth is flat, but they feel like "coming out" would ruin their reputation with their new community.

I get the sense that a lot of right wingers feel the same.

[-] Anarch157a@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

and the reason we don't hear much about flat earth any more is because most of them moved on... to QAnon.

[-] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The Right uses fear and intimidation to keep their base in line. They brainwash their children into believing as they do that an absolute authority exists and someone will tell them who that is and that to succeed in life all they have to do is follow a proscription.

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