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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 149 points 8 months ago

If you raise your kids to believe in Allah you are setting up your grandchildren to live like this. Oppose religion, wherever you see it.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Well that's pretty reductionist, and bigoted. If you're going to judge Muslims by their extremists then you can't leave out the Christians and Jews. Hell Jewish extremists in Israel are committing genocide as we speak.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 79 points 8 months ago

Yes those as well.

They said religion, not just Islam.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

And yet they specifically reference Allah. And elsewhere in the comment section they try and say Allah is different from the Judeo-Christian "God".

[-] jamhandy@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago

You're allowed to use a specific example to make a general point.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Funny how that seems to happen with minorities and Islam but not white people.

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You're the only person concerned about race here. Stop being racist.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

That's literally a line used against people protesting for minority rights. It's not racist to call out problematic stuff.

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

You're the problematic stuff and we're calling you out.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Oh right, because you know me? I haven't said a damn thing about women's rights but to demonstrate how easy it is to lay fears of bigotry to rest... I believe all humans are created equal and should be treated equally. I also believe using extremists to paint entire groups is bigotry.

See? Super easy. Instead y'all seem to be going all in on Islamophobia.

[-] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Christianity is literally the most critiqued religion in the west lol

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

As they control Congress?

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

White people can't be Muslim?

[-] Roastchicken@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

In a post about Muslims oppressing people, someone references Allah.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

But the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish god is the same deity. So "Allah" refers to the god of all 3 religions.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Not to islamophobes it doesn't.

[-] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Cool. Now have the commenter up there clarify that.

[-] ADTJ@feddit.uk 6 points 8 months ago

I'm not saying I agree with op but their comment is very clear already

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Obviously I disagree.

[-] Government_Worker666@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Then don't specifically mention Allah. It's one of the older propaganda methods. We don't like the general group but fuck those guys specifically.

Funny how all the commenter needs to do to clear things up is edit their post. Instead you guys are all trying to make excuses.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You can't just equate religion with fascism. Not that I think religion is ethical or even separable from fascism, but they aren't the same. Plenty of people practice religion without resorting to extremism.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I don't think I did. Cancer and heart disease are not the same despite both having very similar results given enough time.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

You implied that religion necessarily results in fascism.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

If I did I am sorry. There is no way I can make a claim like that. If nothing else the world could end long before the process finished. There is a link between the two but it does not mean that a society with monotheism will have to, 100% of the time with no exceptions, eventually become a fascist one.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

Allah is the God in Christianity though

[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not the commenter, but I assume they talk about the nature of Abrahamic religions.

Technically, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just three updates of the same religion. First came Torah, then it got transformed into the Old Testament and completed with the New one to get the Bible, and then Bible itself got completed to get Quran.

With that came one abrahamic God - referred to as Yahweh in Judaism, Trinity in Christianity (note: Islam goes back and denies Trinity and godly nature of Jesus, calling him a prophet, not element of God, and rolling back on Holy Spirit, too, reinstating Father God as the only source of godly power), and Allah in Islam.

Thereby cancelling Allah means also cancelling Trinity and Yahweh, as they're actually one and the same.

[-] heyoni@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Before mankind was rebooting film franchises it was rebooting religions.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago
[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I don't get it. Thor is not the same as Allah/God, even though he is a Norse god.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Not just exclusive to Islam. This is what Christians are actively working to make happen in the US.

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