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Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net. (mstdn.social)

submitted 11 months ago by mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 111 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

please take a look at the replies under zuck's own post in threads.net and determine if that's the type of content you want.

for those who don't want to visit, majority of the commentators are bots. some advertising crypto, and others asking for money.

even if you think you can individually block those accounts, keep in mind the size of threads compared to fediverse.
for Lemmy: monthly active users are barely ~~150K~~40K, while for threads it's 100 million. there's no chance you can control that inflow of bots.

and if it still doesn't convince you, you can read threads' privacy policy, which states that they'll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

most of the internet is already bigtech, I don't want Lemmy to become another arm of it. though I have faith in my instance maintainer and dessalines, the dev.

[-] jimbo@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

which states that they’ll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

Your public account info, public posts, and interactions are not "PII", they're what's necessary for every instance in the fediverse to work. How do you think people are going to see your name and your posts if their servers can't access it? There's literally nothing stopping Meta from hoovering up all that data right now anyway, because it's PUBLIC.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 11 months ago

sorry, I didn't follow the legal definition of what's PII in the comment.

with meta, just the IP address and one visit is enough to personally identify you though. they have testified before that they have profiles on users who haven't signed up with any of their (dis)services at all.
and threads explicitly states in their privacy policy that they use pixels and web beacons, which they use for this purpose.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but nothing about that changes when federating with them.

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago

Even if there were no bots and it was only "real" content from Threads ... is that the sort of content we want to have Lemmy flooded with?

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is dumb gatekeeping nonsense. It's the exact same asshole bullshit behaviour we saw on Reddit when people complained about it getting popular.

Reddit is far better for reaching a wide audience then it was when it was just a bunch of 20 something nerds in their echo chamber.

[-] sour@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

they arent wrong

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah they are.

[-] sour@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

how do you know

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Mr @zuck is there any chance of you reading my messages about my request for 2M$ man i have been trying every day to contact you and waiting for your response since last 5 months . I have told you why i am asking you for 2M$ i dont know if you ever read my messages but in short you are the only who can make it happen and if there is someone who can give me 2M$ its only you so please read my messages and please make it happen for us and change our lives I am waiting for you since last 5 months .

Looks like the exact same bullshit as facebook and twitter. There might be better examples of good or bad posting though since Zuckerzuck's posts are especially spammed out, since splammy people think they're especially good for visibility.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

yeah, but I didn't want more brain damage sifting through accounts over there lol. but still, when you have a 100 million mau, there are going to be a ton of bots, especially when there are next to no moderators.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

I've barely ever used threads, in a large part because they don't have a fully functional website and require use of an app. So I have no idea.. I assume there's some quality content but I agree that it must be flooded with BS too. I'd be interested in seeing what a Lemmy instance connected to threads looks like. I assume it would wreck browsing 'New'.

[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 1 points 11 months ago

I’ve used threads since it was released out of curiosity, and it’s so far got some of the best moderation I’ve ever seen.

No joke, it seems like they are trying their best to make it as friendly and wholesome as possible.

So many women and minorities uplifting and helping each other, it was honestly quite shocking.

On twitter, I sometimes spend a couple hours just reporting hateful people, and only one or two reports ever gets acted on, everyone else seems to get a pass to hate.

But on Threads, I’ve yet to even need to report a single post, it’s kinda eerie.