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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 88 points 11 months ago

It is inevitable that Meta will try to kill the fediverse while chasing profits, there is no other possibility in their endgame.

If that is pushing ads into other instances or killing those instances entirely we don’t know yet but it will happen.

It has to because the shareholders must always have more.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I just don’t think it’s possible for something to kill the fediverse. And if it is possible, then it is a flaw in the design of the fediverse and needs to be fixed.

[-] Dieinahole@kbin.social 30 points 11 months ago

Are you planning to pay for the extra bandwith to deal with all the additional traffic?

Meta will.

And then when they own the servers amd all the traffic, lemmy will be quietly murdered.

Quietly, because they'll control the traffic, and therefore the narrative

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 25 points 11 months ago

And then when they own the servers amd all the traffic

That's just...not how any of this works.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

All activity pub needed to do was create a user rights guidelines that prevents profiting off the data. Meta wouldn't have touched the Fediverse with the 10-foot pole, if that were the case.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

ActivityPub is a protocol, not a fucking organization. It literally has no agency.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

ActivityPub can't license anything. When you identify actual human beings in this conversation, perhaps you might have a point. So far you don't.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

First off, calm the hell down. You're being needlessly antagonistic.

Secondly, it seems like the W3C is the publisher of the activity pub standard seems like they ducats what is an isnt compliant.

Seems like of was specifically authored by a team including Evan Prodromou according to the wiki.

If they wanted too, but like literally and open source software, it could have been given licencing requirements

Specifically, my research has turned up that implementations of these protocols can be licensed. Threads' version of ActivityPub likely has its own licence. I think it would be safe to say that the creators of Lemmy and Mastodon specifically could have privacy rights dictated within their license implementation. That would nullify threads legal capabilities.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You don't "implement" a license. For fuck's sake could you at least learn the terminology of a domain before spouting opinions on it?!

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago

Exactly. It's basically pen testing.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

People have been writing about this ad nauseum. It's the embrace, extend, extinguish strategy. Join fediverse, extend the spec with so that not all clients are compatible with all features, repeat as necessary until everyone is using your client, finally drop compatibility with other clients.

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