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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[-] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Too bad about the ~software~ security updates and lack of security features. Might be a good spare phone though

[-] e8d79@feddit.de 42 points 2 years ago
[-] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Iirc the chipset, QCM6490, will lose support after 2028 meaning the device will get at least 5 years of security updates and not the promised 8. Pretty sure that's why grapheneOS doesn't/won't support it since the company doesn't keep to their promises

Edit: found grapheneOS' response again I'm not saying Fairphone is a bad company but the way they are advertising the fp5 seems kinda shady IMO based on the specs of the device. At most you'll get partial updates after 5 years since Qualcomm will drop support which is still great but don't assume your device will be as safe as a fully updated device. Then again fairphone may commit to extending the life of the QCM6490 but not sure if they'll be capable of that so we'll just have to see. I apologize to anyone who got offended for some reason I was just expressing my opinion based on the track record of the company and the specs of their device

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Same thing also said by the developer of DivestOS. Fairphones are not fully patched until anywhere close to their promised support. https://forum.fairphone.com/t/is-fairphone-really-interested-in-sustainability/99302

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Which is why I don't think I'm getting the fp. I don't want to pay a premium price for a less secure phone than one with graphene

[-] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Running android puts rather a low ceiling on security and privacy

Edit: ok look y’all, I’m stoked that there are some privacy and security-focused routes for nerds to take, but aggregate security for the average user who goes to a store and buys what the salesperson recommends is an important metric.

[-] Ebsku@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago
[-] toototabon@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'll forever be skeptical of a degoogled OS that runs only on phones engineered by Google.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 2 years ago

Quite the opposite. Running iOS means you have a device that does whatever Apple tells it to do, nothing more and nothing less. Running Android means you have a plethora of options to choose your level of security and convenience.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Why is it currently being advertised as running Android 13?

[-] oehm@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago

Buying this phone as a “spare phone” you very well may never actually need seems to contradict the point of it

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That is a 700+ dollar "spare phone". Must be nice. It seems like an ok phone but it's so expensive that the sustainability angle seems like pretense. My last phone (Moto G4 XT1625, Android 7) was $170 and was technologically obsolescent and physically decrepit by the time I replaced it after about 6 years. I'd like to see how many fairphones are still in use after that long.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

You're paying a premium to have a fucking dongle hanging out of your ear

[-] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago

Thats true but I was referring to it being useful for travelers or as a work phone. Just being useful when you don't want to expose your personal device

[-] agraves@lm.possum.city 12 points 2 years ago

LineageOS, my friend.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Software updates of the old phone or the fp5?

[-] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago

Crap meant security updates I'll edit it in but their phones overall. The company is notorious for not providing full security updates for the promised length which can end up jeopardizing the customer. Then specifically for the fp5 there's the lack of a secure element and iirc verified boot but I could be mistaken

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