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Well, I’ll be damned. They finally won one it sounds like.

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[-] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 39 points 11 months ago

While I understand the concern over the single appstore monopoly that we have on any device, I think it's worth remembering what ecosystem android and IOS came into.

The old multimedia phones that were sold in the mid 00s were effectively "smart". Many of them ran java and you could install programs, and freely install ringtones, and browsers that actually worked like opera mini/mobile. The thing is you couldnt by default. At least not in the US. The devices were locked down and everything you did went through the carrier's store. And US telecom services are some of the greediest and scummiest companies out there so you couldnt even use your own mp3 files as a ringtone.

Apple combated this with their closed off ecosystem, but android did face issues with fragmentation in the early days and needed a way to prevent the telecoms branded phones from stinking up the ecosystem. They did this by leveraging the play services and play store. From the playstore they can also since mainline release various peacemeal updates which helps resolve their other issue with fragmentation and thats android device being abandoned.

Sure enough you can still release your own version of android without it, amazon's tablets and tv sticks do pretty well.

That said I do think it's a good to help people move past the default and open up the platforms more, I just wish it would apply to all smart devices,

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

Yup. I was part of Verizon's app development program and it was a fucking joke. Even if the dev tools and build chain wasn't a complete mess, and even if the dev license wasn't expensive, and even if it wasn't almost impossible to even get test hardware... Even if you managed to build something more useful than snake, you'd still have to wait months and months and months for Verizon to sign your apps and then months more before they'd be available on any handset. I'm legitimately not sure it was even possible for a small dev to get anything approved.

Open app stores were and still are amazing. I get that people want even more freedom, but coming from the trauma of feature phone development, I find it hard to get upset about this, especially considering Android makes it dead simple to sideload.

[-] unexpectedteapot@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago
[-] replicat@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[-] unexpectedteapot@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Absolutely worth the downvotes. It is a paragraph worth of nothing. Literally nothing of value or relevance added to the thread.

[-] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago

Well thats just mean for no particular reason.

[-] StuffYouFear@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I thought it was a good read and reminded me of the garbage I did at one time live through involving non-iphones

Sorry people are being mean on the internet, they may not be aware they dont have to consume all information that is posted in front of them.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Well thats just mean for no particular reason.

Your comment was a nonsensical history lesson, and didn't serve the current conversation of the topic being discussed.

[-] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

A little more tact could bring your comments a long way, my friend.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Nah, call them as you see them. No need to F around when it comes to people polluting the Internet.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Absolutely worth the downvotes. It is a paragraph worth of nothing. Literally nothing of value or relevance added to the thread.

Agree. Smells like a ChatGPT flavored comment.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks, ChatGPT.

I don’t think so

Sure smells like it.

Nobody was asking for a history lesson of the past that doesn't draw any real conclusion to the current situation, at the end of the comment.

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