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1.8 Million Barrels of Oil a Day Avoided from Electric Vehicles
(cleantechnica.com)
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this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
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but also factor in what it takes to charge those batteries because that is fossil fuel somewhere down the line.
You're soooo behind the schedule. That was the anti-EV talking point 5 years ago. You were supposed to move to 'but did they factor in the battery production??' (which they do) and now use one of 'but is the grid ready for so many EV?' or 'there are no EVs below $30.000'!!. You're welcome.
No, even those are the old talking points! Now it’s “EVs have batteries that are very heavy, so they generate lots of tire particulates, which is way worse than the tailpipe emissions of ICE cars, which somehow magically don’t also have tires or something, and aren’t also getting heavier every year.”
Why wasn't I told about the new talking points? I though we agreed all new talking points will be shared during Monday meetings. I will have a word with Kevin about this.
You skipped brakes. For a short time generating brake pad particulates was the talking point, until they discovered what “regen” meant
They did.
oh nice
edit: so the article claimed to have factored electricty generation. Cant believe you are the one being downvoted this hard. As someone who worked in the renewable energy research institute, each time people equal ev to 'clean' automatically I get crazy. The article especially mentioned china, who has a significant portion of electricty generated by coal. Even its by oil, it would produce more co2 for energy loss in conversion. The article has no merit with such flawed comparison
The article literally states they factored in charging the battery, which is the main reason they are being down voted. Read the dang article if you are going to criticize it.
I did not catch the single sentence buried there while being distracted by the old/new ev critism talk. Thanks for pointing out. This is interesting now if true. I'm reading the pdf later
Yeah I am assuming it is true based off other reasings. Didn't really read the data behind this article though. From past references larger battery EVs take about 16 months of break-in before it's carbon neutral for manufacturing / emissions costs from an ICE vehicle. At that point even the heavy fossil fuel reliant electrical grids for charging is more energy / carbon neutral than the cost to refine / deliver / use gasoline for ice vehicles.