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Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?
I mean, it's a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:
Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/
It's like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.
Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by "power-mad" mods, some people just eat what they're fed.
It’s more of a Plato’s cave situation. You only know what you see.
Only partially, it was stated in lots of places and ways that it was in protest of the API pricing changes, and of the reaction of Reddit admins.
Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don't yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).
I'm now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.
I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn't call Reddit crushed.
In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don't really seem to increase by much (though I'd like them to).
I'd like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don't think it's anywhere near (though I'll keep doing my part here!)
The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it's extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. They're all shitty jokes which used to get deleted.
The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support literal genocide of Arabs.
Reddit quality absolutely took a hit after this debacle.
Reddit always had a problem with far right/anti science dogwhistlers, but it also seems like it's gotten much worse. Maybe I was just desensitized and I'm noticing it more because I don't go there much, or maybe it is actually worse because it's an election year, but it also wouldn't surprise me if the .01% of frequent commentors who left full-time for Lemmy represent a significant brain drain.
not just you, it is significantly worse. And many have been banned for reporting hate
not to mention the continued guarantee of enshittification. We've only just seen the beginning of their pursuit of short term profits at the expense of their core value: the userbase.
Ah, I hadn't noticed this level of worsening. I suppose because when I visit I still go to niche subreddits and there the impact is less noticeable (but you do notice it).
I suppose great moderators have left the platform and they've been replaced by others who would like to be as good (but are crippled by new Reddit rules allowing many more trolls) or those that just don't care or are straight crazy!
Wasn't there like a bot defense team that published a ban list or something but they just gave up during the exodus?
I don't. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?
I don't disagree with you!
I just would like to see certain niche communities grow here too because Lemmy is great and (so far) it feels like the conversations here are nicer, so I'd like people to move here to make Lemmy even better
Fair point.
There's nothing wrong with Lemmy growing in an organic sustainable way, but I dislike the attitude that lemmy ought to be a reddit replacement or that lemmy should grow from the ashes of reddit.
Lemmy should be it's own thing with it's own culture and history and communities.
I get a bit peeved when lemmy users (not necessarily you) get a bit obsessive about transferring communities to lemmy from reddit. Just focus on creating good content for Lemmy and forget about the rest.