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[-] cynar@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

A lot of jobs can't be learnt on the fly. They either need prior training, or significant on the job or prior to work training. Those jobs will, by their nature earn a premium (basic supply and demand).

There will always be low skill jobs, and that's ok. The issue is that they are now so poorly paid that you can't survive on them.

E.g. an office janitor is an unskilled job. It's easy to get a new person up to speed on-the-fly. A janitor on a medical ward is low skilled. They require more training, but it can be on the job. Cleaning a surgery theatre is a skilled job. It requires a significant baseline of knowledge to do it right. This requires off the job training.

None are bad jobs, and all should be paid well enough to live on. However, the more specialist roles should also earn more, since they have higher requirements.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

So you're saying training isn't training? That's a bold claim. Can you prove it?

And if you think an office janitor is an unskilled job. You've never met many good custodians. It's easy for anyone to go into any field and do a shit job. But whether or not you acknowledge it. Being good at something takes skill regardless of what it is. Even the migrants picking fruit in American fields are highly skilled. Or are you telling me that in less than a single season or week you could match or better them?

[-] snuff@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I think you've forgotten about pilots and surgeons and such... not exactly OJT material.

[-] oddsbodkins@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago

I think you made a non-sequitur. They never said anything about that. Simply pointed out how all jobs require knowledge and training of some sort to be good at them. Perhaps in the future you should debate in good faith and not create straw men to push a false narrative.

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