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They're talking out their bum. It's as private as any email service can be.
important to emphasize here that email is inherently not very private. Proton is one of the best email providers for privacy, but for things you really need to be private (eg organizing protests in less-than-friendly countries) you shouldn't use email at all.
Which is precisely why I said "as any email service can be".
yes I agree with you lol just trying to be extra clear for people who might be confused
Does proton do anything other than encrypting the email file? TLS should be enough to encrypt the transfer.
They do lots. They open images and other attachments on their servers so they can't be used to track you and filter tracking links when possible.
Okey, that sounds super nice. I might just switch over my email as well to them, not just use them for their calendar.
Nope. Refer the links below.
https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/07/protonmail_hands_user_ip_address_police/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/
https://cyberwarzone.com/protonmail-complies-with-a-record-6000-government-requests-for-user-data-in-2022/
https://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/
Yep. Find me a service provider that risks being arrested to deny lawful demands in Switzerland. I'll wait.
If you look at what data they handed over you'll realize this is a positive thing. You have verifiable proof that the contents of your mails is private, and you're calling it a negative thing that they have your IP address??
Do you have articles showing Tutanota refusing to do the same?
I am not here to entertain Whataboutery. I am not a shill for Tuta Mail and will abandon it as well if it does the same thing. I don't rely on e-mail for communications. I only suggested Tuta Mail in the other thread because it is the least worst of them all.
If your argument is "don't use email", you're right, but doing a bad job articulating it.