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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

The way a referendum works is that the side with more votes gets to do the thing, in this case brexit. How you voted does not matter as the majority of your countries population (who voted) voted to leave. You don't get to "I voted for Kodos" this 7 years later.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

That referendum was 7 years ago and it passed with a 2% majority, under conditions where the Leave campaign was caught lying out of their teeth.

A lot of people who voted on it have died since then and a whole cohort of people aged 18-25 didn't get a chance to vote.

Democracy required them to go through with it, but democracy also means they are allowed to change their mind and apply for EU, EER or EFTA membership.

I, for one, will welcome them back at the soonest opportunity.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

More referendums is the way to go.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How is that fair? If the vote had been to oppress an minority group you wouldn't then go oh well it's that population groups fault for being oppressed would you?

I'm not sure that the level of vitriol here is entirely justified. Wouldn't the European Union be more economically sound if the UK rejoined. Wouldn't a unified trade block be the best thing possible you should want the UK back in if the UK wants back in. I do not get this attitude of oh screw all the British people because well the vast majority of Scottish didn't want it, most of the population of London didn't want it. It was basically just a bunch of idiot yokels and old people who are now dead who wanted to leave the EU because they thought the EU was in some way this evil entity.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure where you get vitriol and the idea anything is fair. I am also not extra happy Scotland did not leave the UK but as there was a vote (just 2 years too soon) and last time I checked things still work that way so I like most people have to live with it.

Hold a referendum on the issue then again (I am sure it will also be a mess). Its insane that people now think you can somehow ignore a majority vote because you don't like the result. Was this a bad idea? yes. Is the UK filled with "a bunch of idiot yokels and old people"? also yes.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

It was barely a majority vote and anyway it wasn't legally binding so the government could have totally ignored it at the time and been fine the vote was utterly pointless.

The problem is the morons held the vote then decided to uphold the decision of the vote even though It was essentially only getting soundings.

It was a trade relationship why was it a matter of public consultation?

The people of the UK have been extremely hurt by this and it's just irritating to see that apparently there would be resistance in the EU to fixing a mistake. Why is there resistance I don't get it?

[-] ebikefolder@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Why is there resistance I don’t get it?

The history of British whining and cherrypicking. They never behaved like regular members, but more like "special snowflakes". I understand the fear that they might start this nonsense again, once back in the the union.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

It was barely a majority vote and anyway it wasn’t legally binding so the government could have totally ignored it

The problem is the morons held the vote then decided to uphold the decision of the vote

Do you see the problem with this approach?

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Its insane that people now think you can somehow ignore a majority vote because you don’t like the result.

Making a bad decision doesn't mean you can never, ever rethink that decision and have to stick with it no matter what.

If the majority doesn't like the result, then what's the point of not reconsidering things?

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Never said otherwise. But retroactively arguing the issue without a new referendum is an issue.

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