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[-] MycelialMass@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago
[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You believe that there is no god or gods, and that people shouldn't believe in them either. That is a belief.

[-] ebikefolder@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

I don't believe there is are gods, or unicorns, or green elephants. "Don't believe" = "no belief".

And personally I couldn't care less what other people believe, as long as they keep it to themselves and don't bother anybody.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

I don't believe that a God doesn't exist, so therefore no belief either. Who says you get to be the default?

[-] taladar@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Occam's Razor.

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

as Ricky Gervais put it the difference between a Christian or Muslim and an Atheist is to believe in exactly one less god than them, there are over 2000 gods believed in by various people, Christians don't believe in any of them, Atheists don't believe in any of them +1

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ah yes the universe came from nothing and time started by itself. Don't question it people or this man sends you to jail.

[-] themusicman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

You clearly misunderstand what it is to be an atheist. The whole point is to question it. As new evidence (yes, it's based on evidence) surfaces, we change our "beliefs" accordingly.

Atheism is not belief in the big bang, atheism is belief in whatever scientific theory is currently best supported by evidence.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Atheism means that you say you are 100% certain there is no god. A-Theism. It's the word.

The problem is that there is still no clear evidence for the origins for time and the universe. You cannot start claiming god doesn't exist without having clear evidence for it

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

If a god exists, they're completely superfluous, unnecessary and not worthy of praise.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You say that, but you're alive. So I'm assuming that you do somewhat appreciate being alive since you haven't unalived yourself. You might even think it's pretty neat.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

What absolute brainless nonsense is this? What's that even supposed to mean?

[-] sousmerde_retardatr@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That God is the reason for my/your/our/Our existence, seems clear enough, you can refer to Aristotle or pretty much any other theologian on this topic.
See, believing in God was never irrational after all, you were just brainwashed by modernity(, on this topic as well).

Also, God is the Greatest being, by definition(, see St.Anselm ٱللَّٰهُ أَكْبَرُ), so S..He is also my/(y)our/Our/the Guide/Example/Light(house)/..

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Delete your account, low life troll. Your kind is not welcome in this world.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You say that everything is unnecessary and unworthy of praise which equals saying life has no worth and is meaningless.

Yet you are still living so you seem to be finding worth and/or meaning in it.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

They didn't say everything is superfluous, they said God is. You're conflating "God" with "everything", but understand that is far from a universal understanding of how the universe works. If you're not sure how the other person feels about this you need to ask instead of assuming they share the same definitions you do.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If a god exists, they’re completely superfluous, unnecessary and not worthy of praise.

He is saying that creating life and the universe isnt't worthy of praise IF god exists.

Or am I misunderstanding this sentence?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Your two neurons seem to not grasp the idea that if a god exists, something must've made it so, which means we're back to the same problem as if no god existing. If such a god exists, they're no more important than random quantum fluctuations, and infinitely more sadistic.

[-] 9bananas@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

cancer is alive, just saying...

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Well if you insist on pedantry, "atheism" doesn't mean a belief that gods don't exist, it's a lack of belief in gods. Think "asexual": it's not an aversion to sex, just a lack of sex drive. You are describing antitheism, and many self-described atheists are actually antitheists.

You cannot start claiming god doesn’t exist without having clear evidence for it

Incorrect, you are the one with the spectacular claim and the burden of proof lies on you. Prove that gods exist.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Agnoticism is the word you are looking for. or "being agnostic".

agnostic

A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (such as God) is unknown and probably unknowable

This entire comment chain is focused on banning religion and being 100% certain that god doesn't exist.

If you want to ban religion and claim god doesn't exist then the burden of evidence to disprove god lies with you. But you can start by creating something from nothing or reversing time.

[-] ebikefolder@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Everybody (except some religious people) are agnostic about most things. That's why phenomema like gravity or electromagnetism are explained by "theories". God isn't even a theory in that sense.

[-] ebikefolder@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

It's scientifically close to impossible to prove the non-existence of something. Even green elephants.

As for time and space... I don't see the slightest evidence of "god did it". For me, the chance of finding a green Elephant seems way higher. Because it seems at least possible.

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[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

No that's agnosticism

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