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this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2023
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Maybe we should agree on a default landing server, and throw it on a scaling AWS instance?
I looked around for an instance like a landing server and found lemm.ee. The admin advertises the intention of this instance to be something like a landing server, so maybe direct confused people to there and let them explore after settling in?
I'm curious though, is the intention of the federation also that you move onto different instances later on? As you should be able to access everything from everywhere anyway, this should not be necessary I presume?
The way I see it, the benefit of federation id that it gives you the option/freedom to move to another instance later on while still being able to access all the network’s content.
I’m not sure if lemmy currently has this feature, but for example Mastodon allows a user to move their account to another instance. It’s not necessary for someone to move their account, but having the ability to is nice. A way to think about it is that it builds the ability to flee an instance into the platform itself, but doesn’t penalize the user from fleeing an instance. Unlike reddit where people are fleeing but now they lose access to all the content reddit has.
Re Mastodon: Tbh I’m not sure. I’m also a reddit refugee and have been exploring different fediverse services. I think how mastodon implements it is as a sort of “authenticated redirect”. Not to sure on how ActivityPub supports one account controlling another account on ActivityPub. Maybe could be implemented as a sort of keyring, where the most recent account on the newest instance has tokens for each of the past accounts on the old instances so that their posts can be transparently modified by the most recent account?
Or maybe this is a non-issue and people can just make new accounts on different instances.
it's somewhat… janky.
you can 'migrate' an account, to use the masto term that will make it easier to search. this:
it does not:
i'm not clear on how long your old posts linger at old-place, and you might have to export/import your following list.
it's possible, i've seen lots of people do it, but it gets more unappealing the longer you've been actively using the account. unless you're like me and have posts set to self-destruct within days. and you can imagine the difficulty of actually moving the posts - if i were an avid shitposter and i moved house to noshit·social, then all my garbage would be dumped in the yard in violation of policy.
You could also just have a website that 1. Selects a random instance from the ones currently available and up and 2. Shows all instances and whether they are up or down. This would encourage new users to not all pile on to the same instance.
I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff (what's a docker? What's a kubernetes? Lol) but I don't think as of right now with Lemmy, kbin, etc you can just throw a bigger single server at the problem. Anyways, that's kinda against the purpose of decentralization anyway. I know you're supposed to pick a server based on what one you like, rules or whatever but right now they're pretty much all equivalent (except lemmygrad, lol)
Surely not a random instance. Lots of instances are niche or have more strict requirements on the user, even if they're public.
I'm saying again, there should be a way for instances to better propagate their interests/philosophy/politics/communitues and for the user to pick one based on that.
So something similar to http://www.distrochooser.de?
I know that site is specifically about choosing a Linux distro, but the idea is the same.
Answer questions with certain options, it will calculate based on the criteria you fed it, and then it will give a rating list of what instance is the best option for you.
Highest on the list being What met the criteria you provided. Lowest being what did not meet the criteria.
No, that's too complicated. We're talking a signup for a web service, that needs to be very simple.
I'd take just a single page with selection of interests. I think some community/multimedia apps already do something like that. Then maybe another page with stuff like "it's fine if I need to wait for approval" or "I can provide an email address" or whatever may be...
But definitely needs to be simple.
https://join-lemmy.org/instances
Should work for that, they just need to have a good newbie page with a curated selection of generic servers at the top, with a random one selected, maybe based on location?
Is the instances really a major barrier to entry, It seems no different to me than picking an Email provider.