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Google executives acknowledged this month they need to do a better job surfacing user-generated content after the recent Reddit blackouts.

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[-] cowmouse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DuckDuckGo has great results IMO

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I find DDG has the same garbage AI generated content as Google. Also, search operators have been broken on DDG for years

[-] cowmouse@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Search operators? Quotes and dashes?

[-] snowbell@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] cowmouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] snowbell@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Probably going to be different experiences depending on what you are searching for.

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

DDG is my default search engine but there are some types of searches that it's not good at yet, so I find myself often toggling between the two after I see that DDGs response isn't going to cut it.

Earlier today I was searching for a really specific Python error message and google had zero results. I tried Yandex and got the correct result on the first response.

Each search engine seems to be optimizing for a certain type of query and answer.

[-] Restaldt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ive started going to chatgpt to help me out with errors i dont understand and google hasnt helped with

[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same, it helps with a lot of issues and even skips the part where people are questioning why you even want to know that and how you're doing it the wrong way and should do their way

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yesssss, me too. And often it gets to the right response on the first try which is the ultimate timesaver. This is why Google may be toast unless they can figure out how to integrate this.

The only caveat is that sometimes Chatgpt just hallucinates an answer or it's incomplete, so you need a bit more dead reckoning to make sure you're going the right way.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I liked them well enough, but recently is it just me or it seems like every time I reload a search by simply going back to the page, the ranking of the results immediately changes?
That is supper annoying to me, as now I can't keep track of the results I opened easily

[-] Cinner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This happens sometimes if you search for a new non-cached search phrase. It'll give you a couple pages, then update it's index and when you go back you're on the updated index.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Interesting, but how come it never did that before? Did I just not notice?

[-] Cinner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know. I've noticed it happening for the last few months. Maybe they have the ability to update caches faster now and want to give the most fresh results. It can be irritating if you're like me and like to click a result and then go back and open a bunch of results in new tabs.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Sounds plausible yeah, so I haven't gone crazy haha, it really is annoying since usually the new results are also worse than the first batch in my experience. Guess I'll just pick up the habit of opening everything in a new tab from the get go

[-] Cinner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

the new results are also worse than the first batch in my experience.

FWIW I thought the same. Seems like every search engine turns to doo with time.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Would be a great moment for a great open source search engine to take everyone by storm, well, like that's ever gonna happen...

[-] ArcticCircleSystem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I feel like that would be more easily gameable. SearXNG relies on results from other engines and there's this one distributed one that's apparently basically useless for most searches. Do with that info what you will. ~Nai

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

My wish would be for a free search engine, not a meta search engine, but it doesn't seem like there is much interest for that, mainly because it highly demanding in terms of complexity, but most importantly resources to run it.

I feel like that would be more easily gameable.

I'm sorry, what does that mean?

[-] ArcticCircleSystem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If the algorithm is made open source, it'll likely be even easier for spammers to exploit it to spam SEO crap. ~Nai

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I kind of doubt that they would optimize for an underdog in the search engine space, they'd be spending money on something fundamentally unprofitable, also because there's going to be a high overlap between the users of such an engine and those who would use an ad/content blocker

[-] spj@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DDG mostly gets its results from bing

we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing

https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/

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