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before they were defederated by beehaw due to trolling issues, thenthedonlald showed up, and now exploding heads? what is happening right now?

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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I counted 43 ayes. 43 vs over 2000 active users. That is why those early votes should not and most likely will not be honored.

[-] Aikawa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

In that case, it would be sound to cancel the decisions already voted. Namely Post Formats, Only those with an account on this instance should vote on the Agora, and Agora Moderators. If we follow that logic, those few dozens of users shouldn't have decided for the thousands of others.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let's have a vote on rhe number of new users required to cancel all votes and start over! I think it should be a % because otherwise as the place grows we would end up voting again on a much more regular basis.

All in favor say aye

All against say nay

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Should we cancel votes on a periodic basis as more people join the instance?

[-] carbon_based@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Not cancel the votes but new people will ofc have the possibility to bring existing rules newly to discussion. It may be totally reasonable to review rules, assuming they can get outdated. And ideally, yes, if it was a real community (real verifyable persons) then any new member must be asked if they had any objections to the existing rules, and given the opportunity to newly discuss them (or add to a constantly ongoing discussion). It just isn't all too practical in certain circumstances.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Or people should understand that decentralization means that if they don't agree with the rules on an instance then they can join an instance with rules they agree with and if their current instance goes in a direction they disagree with they can join another instance.

People are just attached to a username and, in this instance's case, to the cool name.

[-] carbon_based@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Well, i was implicitely talking about sh.itjust.works, where the owner just opened up all but their most vital rules to be discussed and decided upon by the users. This applies regardless of the age of a user account. ... And then i was talking about an ideal, in-person situation ... which we don't have here.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Votes should be held in a way that makes it apparent for users that they are happening, for example by giving a server-wide announcement. They shouls further run for at least a week, if not longer. They also need to be clear in their wording, concise and easy to find.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

There's a sticky in the main community to announce the creation of the Agora and all the kinks about votes are being worked on already.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Worked on, not fixed. It's an important distinction.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You know your need to start by working on stuff before they're fixed, right?

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