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[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 248 points 11 months ago

Flaws:

  • fails to address leap years
  • fails to address 365th day
  • moon cycle will still slowly deviate
  • retains clunky 7-day week that doesn't interact will with decimal counting system

I like it, but I got an even better proposal. Weeks should have ten day weeks, and each month should have 3 weeks. summer/winter solstice and the spring/autumn equinox as well as new years day are special holidays that fall between months and interrupt the week cycle. In leap years, new years is two days.

The 1st, 11th and 21st of each month are now Mondays, so you can tell the weekday of any date. Months are the same length just like in Jesse's proposal, but an even 30 instead of a clunky 28.

I've thought about this a lot

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 131 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Congratulations, you've successfully reinvented the Egyptian civil calendar, complete with the intercalary holidays and all. Literally the only change is to add weeks. And yes, it did work really well, especially since the feast could add or lose a day to adjust to a known reference (the rise and fall of the Nile in their case). I second this proposal to go back.

[-] Ryan213@lemmy.world 69 points 11 months ago

Our corporate overlords will want 8-day work-weeks. LOL

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Yeah I'm only in if we get 3 days off per week.

[-] PhreakyByNature@feddit.uk 73 points 11 months ago

No dammit, we want 3 days off in the current 7 day week cycle. 5 days off a 10 day week works for me. We ask for that, get negotiated down to 4 day weekends and it works.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Fair enough, make it happen!

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I dunno man, if hump day meant I still had the rest of the day plus 3 more days until the weekend, I think I'd snap.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah you'd definitely need one day in the middle. Or Id say even better, a 3 day and 2x2 day work weeks with days off in between.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Five days off at least.

[-] alldreadme@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] huginn@feddit.it 24 points 11 months ago
[-] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

5 Day Weekends!!!!!

[-] amda@feddit.nl 8 points 11 months ago

We could fit three break day in a a 10 day week (3/10 is slightly bigger than 2/7). We could put the third day in the middle of the week to not have 7 work days in a row. In the fourth day mabey?

[-] odium@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

I vote we work on days 2,3,4 and 7,8,9 of the week.

[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago
[-] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 17 points 11 months ago
[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Leap years and keep years

[-] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I hope that one of the new days is named after you and we all curse you every Potatuesday for creating more workdays.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Having a day called Potatuesday... might be worth it

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I like the 10 days week, but people, please rush to create a new religion to cover multiple free days or im out

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

The extra days of the week is called Lazyday, Chillsday, and Beersday.

It is forbidden to work on these days, the Lord commands it.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

every other day is labour day, and thus a holiday.

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[-] Fogle@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago
[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

3-1-4-2 would work and give 70% work to 30% off - currently we have 71.4% work in a 7 day week so it's pretty similar with less friday burnout

[-] Fogle@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago
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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago

Weeks should have ten day weeks

And instead of calling them "weeks", we could call them by the much more self-explanatory term "tendays".

summer/winter solstice and the spring/autumn equinox as well as new years day are special holidays that fall between months and interrupt the week cycle

You can simplify it a little bit by putting the intercalary days between months, rather than using them for the solstices. We can put Midwinter between January 30 and February 1 and Midsummer between July 30 and August 1, in the northern hemisphere.

For the sake of putting it in a more user-friendly location, our leap day should be in the summer for the northern hemisphere (where most of the population is). So put it the day after Midsummer.

The only thing I would do differently from the Calendar of Harptos is that, like you, I would use New Year's Day as the 5th annual intercalary day.

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Intercalary is one of those words I never expect to hear outside of the https://app.fantasy-calendar.com userbase

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Ok, I've never heard of that site before, but I am definitely in its target market. Thanks for sharing!

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

You're very welcome! It's ultra useful for my dnd campaigns, I try to share it any chance I get

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

the equinoxes and solstices are roughly 90 days apart anyway so we can do both :)

Calendar of Harptos actually influenced my post hehe

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[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Just don't propose a unified earth/solar time even though it's going to be necessary once we start spacefaring more lol.

Funnily enough this issue is being brought up a lot on Lemmy recently. I've been at the IFC and Fixed Time haters for a bit in a different thread lol.

https://www.worldtimeserver.com/learn/the-proposal-to-abolish-time-zones/

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

I recently thought of abolishing timezones altogether and everybody I told thought I was batshit crazy. thank you!

[-] xeekei@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

What names shall we give the new weekdays? Because I was thinking maybe we should rename a few existing ones, so no weekdays start with the same letters. Then they can be abbreviated to their respective first letters.

[-] owatnext@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

"Hey, when are you going to do that thing I asked you to do?"

"Ohhhh, Someday... Shit."

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Realistic Answer:

Workday1, Workday2, Workday3.v2.Final

Because we would absolutely end up working on them. Who the fuck wants a longer work week?

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 5 points 11 months ago

Weeks should have ten day weeks, and each month should have 3 weeks.

Here's why I'm going to say no. It's because businesses would just rip us off by turning the working week into 8 days and just retaining the 2 day weekend.

No, and double no.

[-] demonquark@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

That’s very pessimistic. It assumes that there is a corporate led reform. Which is unlikely. If it was a grass roots campaign, the call for change would include a weekend proposal from the start. By the time businesses come around to supporting it, the weekend will alredy be defined as 3-work-2-off, or 7-work-3-off.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The 365th day is new years day... duh.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Dec can be the month with 29 days and a 4 year leap day. That way all the nonsense is in one place.

Moon cycle doesn't matter.

7 day system is not clunky it is human.

[-] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Current workforce is schedule around a 7day centric week. It's far easier to reorganize where the weeks fall in the year than changing the structure of a week. Suddenly the workforce would have segment of work overlapping between weeks, it's an organizational nightmare.

The international fixed calendar did propose a solution for the 365 days and leap year but it's basically out-of-the-week holidays.

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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Any solution that has some form of "oh those days? Nah, we don't count those" is disqualified immediately in my book.

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago

laughs in Egyptian...

They had 5 or 6 intercalary holidays to celebrate the new year and adjust to the rise of the Nile (and we'd adjust it to astronomical time with leap years). It actually worked really well, and kept the people happy with a 5-day rest and celebration each year (something this world could definitely use).

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[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

As a software developer, I would rather give up the 1.25 days off a year just to not have to work around some weird monthless and weekless date every year.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Hm fair enough. Let's make the intercalary days part of the last week of the last month before they happen for programming/numbering purposes. So Midsummer is just June 31st, or the 11th day of the 18th week.

[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I don't see why 7 day weeks are bad in regard to the number system. We rarely need to divide the days of the week into equal portions. Remembering 1, 8, 15 and 22 as mondays would be trivial after a while.

You also claim that failure to address the 365th day and leap years is an issue, but your proposal also includes several cycle-breaking days. So the same issue would persist.

Moon deviation isn't something I really worry about, but having a period which almost align with the cycle seems useful. It would be easy to just examine the initial phase within the month to chart out the rest of the month.

However, I think the biggest flaw is that the calendar would be divided into 13 equal parts, which sucks to divide into typical use cases, i.e. into 2 parts. You could split the 7th month, but it's not really elegant. Dividing the year into 3 or 4 parts would be a mess.

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