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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. Many Chromium forks already have very good inbuilt adblockers , which won't be affected by the MV3 stuff. On top of that, one could also use system-wide blockers such as AdGuard and DNS-level blockers (which is not even a bad idea if you're on Windows anyway).

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 1 year ago

You can continue to cope or you can upgrade to a real browser.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I already upgraded to Brave years ago. Thanks. And fuck Mozilla.

[-] wagesj45@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago

You mean Chromium Brave Edition?

[-] Baku@aussie.zone 28 points 1 year ago

Why you got beef with Mozi? They chill

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, no. Too much disregard for the community and useless political crap, apart from hypocrisy on their fake anti-Google stance.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago

useless political crap

Meanwhile: Uses Brave

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Such an ignorant and bad faith statement I won't even bother to reply.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Brave is wrapped up in so much controversy it feels like you're trolling that you called it a real browser. You're trolling, right? Have fun with your brave sponsored ads and crypto bullshit. Also you're still being lead by Google, but I guess that's okay because it's in a pretty wrapper.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Lol, as if Mozilla weren't keep alive by Google's money (which mainly come from ads, as well). Pathetic and laughable at once. Use what you prefer and stop bothering me.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You jumped into this conversation, friend.

Google does keep Mozilla alive, but it wouldn't have to if it weren't a monopoly. Since it does monopolize the market, it has to keep Mozilla alive or face monopoly busting action. The money Google makes comes from ads, but not the money Mozilla makes.

Also, unlike you, my browser isn't directly controlled by Google's every whim.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You're being highly self delusional. But whatever. Enjoy FF, until it lasts.

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

💀, tell a privacy gatekeeper about you

[-] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago
[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They said in their reply.

Are you for real? Everything you said reads like a tech bro caricature

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tired of your own bullshit? It happens, I guess

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago

pOliTiCaL

Would you care to explain to the class?

[-] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They donate a lot to political campaigns that have nothing to do with technology or anything relevant. I use and love Firefox, but this is definitely questionable

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla

[-] nevernevermore@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

that article reads like if my 8 year old nephew read thru my tax return. But no matter how mozilla spend their money, Google are spending money their money on much more questionable and unethical things.

[-] trevor 3 points 1 year ago
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[-] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Brave isn’t any better of an option with all the controversies they’ve had.

[-] Platform27@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

If anything, they’re worse.

  1. Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
  2. They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
  3. They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.
  4. They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).
  5. Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.

I could go on.

[-] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the worst most condescending people working for Brave. I actually had one of their people antagonize me on social media years ago for not liking their invasive homepage at the time.

[-] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

And also don't forget Gab forked out Brave to create Dissenter.

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[-] DrQuint@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

Man's 3 poignant inquiries away from peddling Brave. Tread carefully folks.

[-] wdx@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

Lmao you were right

[-] DigitalBits@programming.dev 35 points 1 year ago

System wide ad blockers can't block a lot of ads, namely same-domain ads or those that are built into the html. Much rarer than the external page kind (DNS ones) thankfully.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Namely, Youtube ads

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

AFAIK, AdGuard can block same domain ads. I'm not talking about AdGuard DNS, I'm talking about AdGuard app/program.

[-] Cossty@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

As far as I know most inbuilt adblockers, don't work very well. Especially with yt. Everytime yt does something, you would probably have to wait for new version of your browser, and even then it is questionable if it would work. With ublock origin you just click on one button and you are good to go. If somebody doesn't know, I'm talking about refreshing your filters.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I'm yet to see any ad since I've started using Brave. Din know about YouTube, I don't use it.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 year ago

Why would you want to use some Google-coded, bigoted-ceo, crypto-pushing, link hijacking POS like Brave?

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Because it's simply a better browser.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Brave adblock is just a fork of uBlock with a whitelist for Brave's partners.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It works. Enough for me not to bother with anything else.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

That’s fine but you should understand that you shouldn’t endorse an inferior product just because you don’t need anything better

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll endorse whatever I feel like. And.. Inferior? Lol. Just looking at the retard UI of Firefox is enough for me (p.s., I've been a FF user for almost 20 year, since it still was Phoenix).

By the way, I'd be curious to know what would happen to FF if somewhat uBlock Origin disappeared. Equivalently, the only thing keeping FF alive (apart from sweet Google's money) is the existence of uBlock Origin, i.e. an independent extension created and maintained by volunteers. I'm pretty sure that the day uBO dies, is the day FF disappears

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why not just change the UI then?

How do you figure it’s u-block?

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[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Okey dokey mate

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Yeah surel, I'll use the inadequate browser but fox the problems with system wide ad blockers, instead of just using a browser, that doesn't steal my data and let's me install addons that I want. Google is way out of bounds here imho.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Use whatever suits you. I'm just saying that people already using browsers with a built-in AdBlock aren't going to switch, because they won't even notice the MV3 stuff.

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Aren't all those ad blockers and distribution platforms too? Heard about ABP that sell ad space for example.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IIRC, ABP used to whiteliste some "acceptable" ads (non invasive, etc...). Frankly, it's been literally ages since I have used it, so I don't know how they behave right now. I was referring to AdGuard as a system-wide adblocker, though, which is a completely different story.

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Right, thanks for the clarification.

[-] agame@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

As long as these browsers themselves exist. Inbuilt adblockers aren't extension, are integral parts of the browsers, and don't need to follow extensions' rules.

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