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[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This unfortunately helps sets a precedent for what the internet is going to look like in the future. Even the most basic things will be behind a paywall.
You cant even read a fucking news article from New York Times, who made 173.91 million dollars last year

[-] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

News has never historically been free, only recently through the web and founded by ads.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You've never heard of broadcast radio or TV?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lots of ads

Edit: also tv news is also a new concept.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Right, so ads aren't a recent development.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ads have existed for an extremely long time.

And most news has cost money since forever.

Tv news is a relatively new development and TV news is entirely founded by ads and as a way to drive viewers to a channel to keep them for other programmes.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

TV news is 80 years old. It's far from new.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Again, that was not my point.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure why you keep stating it.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Why are you so stuck on the tv thing?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because you keep insisting on repeating falsehoods.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I mentioned it as a sidenote. It's not important, forget about it.

Either way it's subjective and honestly 80 years is not that long, but who cares 🤷

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It is in this context, and you're categorically wrong on all counts.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Again completely ignoring the point...

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That everything you've been stating is wrong?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How is something 80 years old "new?"

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Relatively new compared to news. Either way it doesn't matter, my point was that it's funded by ads.

Tv news also drives viewers to a channel which is probably the main purpose of it.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True. I amended my comment to better convey my anger

[-] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

How much money do you think they would have made if they gave away all their content for free.

News is pretty expensive.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You mean the world renowned, universally known news agency in America owned by billionaires?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I am not familiar with who owns who in the USA. I do know that news wouldn't get made if no one wanted to pay for it.

[-] Jerkface@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know what is so controversial about this statement. Investigative reporting is fucking expensive. The people who do it need to eat. If you're not paying for it, who is?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

People in this community can be a bit extreme when it comes to never paying for stuff and the need to justify it.

I also like piracy but the constant justifications attempts are pretty annoying.

[-] Spazsquatch@lemmy.studio 1 points 1 year ago

True, but just look at how much better it has gotten in the last couple decades. Putting the news behind the paywall runs the risk of ending the battle for impressions and might force nuance into well researched stories.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A lot of things are already like that. IIUC this is restrictions on the API not the subs themselves. If you'd like you can still go to the site to download specific subs. What you can't do is use bazarr to bulk download subs. Personally I bought vip since I found the free tier API limit pretty bad and I didn't think the price was so bad for what you get back. Feel free to disagree tho. Before I automated my setup I was just manually searching for subs for movies I wanted and that worked pretty well and will continue to do so if you'd prefer that.

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