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[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This unfortunately helps sets a precedent for what the internet is going to look like in the future. Even the most basic things will be behind a paywall.
You cant even read a fucking news article from New York Times, who made 173.91 million dollars last year

[-] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

News has never historically been free, only recently through the web and founded by ads.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You've never heard of broadcast radio or TV?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lots of ads

Edit: also tv news is also a new concept.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Right, so ads aren't a recent development.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ads have existed for an extremely long time.

And most news has cost money since forever.

Tv news is a relatively new development and TV news is entirely founded by ads and as a way to drive viewers to a channel to keep them for other programmes.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

TV news is 80 years old. It's far from new.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Again, that was not my point.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Not sure why you keep stating it.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Why are you so stuck on the tv thing?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Because you keep insisting on repeating falsehoods.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I mentioned it as a sidenote. It's not important, forget about it.

Either way it's subjective and honestly 80 years is not that long, but who cares 🤷

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It is in this context, and you're categorically wrong on all counts.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Again completely ignoring the point...

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That everything you've been stating is wrong?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

How is something 80 years old "new?"

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Relatively new compared to news. Either way it doesn't matter, my point was that it's funded by ads.

Tv news also drives viewers to a channel which is probably the main purpose of it.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

True. I amended my comment to better convey my anger

[-] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

How much money do you think they would have made if they gave away all their content for free.

News is pretty expensive.

[-] Jerkface@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I don't know what is so controversial about this statement. Investigative reporting is fucking expensive. The people who do it need to eat. If you're not paying for it, who is?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

People in this community can be a bit extreme when it comes to never paying for stuff and the need to justify it.

I also like piracy but the constant justifications attempts are pretty annoying.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

You mean the world renowned, universally known news agency in America owned by billionaires?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I am not familiar with who owns who in the USA. I do know that news wouldn't get made if no one wanted to pay for it.

[-] Spazsquatch@lemmy.studio 1 points 11 months ago

True, but just look at how much better it has gotten in the last couple decades. Putting the news behind the paywall runs the risk of ending the battle for impressions and might force nuance into well researched stories.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

A lot of things are already like that. IIUC this is restrictions on the API not the subs themselves. If you'd like you can still go to the site to download specific subs. What you can't do is use bazarr to bulk download subs. Personally I bought vip since I found the free tier API limit pretty bad and I didn't think the price was so bad for what you get back. Feel free to disagree tho. Before I automated my setup I was just manually searching for subs for movies I wanted and that worked pretty well and will continue to do so if you'd prefer that.

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