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[-] Antik@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago

Being a republican. Sure there are some educated grifters who decide to label themselves as republican, but your average republican voter is a mouth-breathing fucking idiot.

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Being a ~~republican~~ first-party voter. Sure there are some educated grifters who decide to label themselves as republican or democrat, but your average ~~republican~~ first-party voter is ~~a mouth-breathing fucking idiot.~~ terribly misinformed.

FTFY

[-] Antik@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago

Sorry tard boy, both sides aren't the same.

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Never said they were. But they are both inescapably corrupt any beholden to their corporate masters. Democrats are just better at pretending to care about social issues.

A vote for either party is a vote against progress.

[-] AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately in a first past the post system voting third party is little more than throwing your vote away, or even worse taking it away from a candidate who you support that actually has a chance of winning

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sad, but true. But also a self-fulfilling prophecy. If everyone was well-informed and voted for who they really felt deserved the position, regardless of party affiliation, we wouldn't be in this mess. But that would also require that everyone actually spend time researching each candidate, and most people don't have the time/mental capacity for that.

Thinking more on it, maybe this was always the endgame of representative democracy, especially when mixed with unregulated (for the last few decades, anyway) capitalism. Even if everyone spent hours researching each candidate and chose earnestly, we might have a small resurgence of third-party representatives in positions of power for a short while, but people would inevitably move towards two polarized parties, anyway.

So I guess our only option now is to tear it all down and start anew. Or maybe just wait for the AI singularity to happen, then we all either die horribly or live forever in paradise. ๐Ÿคž

[-] AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Ooooor we could push for ranked choice voting, haha

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Psh, yeah, if you want the easy way out!

Seriously, though, it boggles the mind that there hasn't been a stronger push for ranked choice voting. Of course the establishment parties would do their best to suppress anything that might help unseat them, but you'd think the disenfranchised millions who feel no strong affiliation to red or blue would be pushing harder for it. It's not perfect, but at this point, I think most would agree that a major change is necessary if we ever want to Make America Kinda Okay Againโ„ข

[-] AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, 100% agree. It's insane it isn't a top priority to me. I would have to imagine the powers that be have little to no interest in that kind of change. The world would be a much better place with ranked choice voting though, maybe someday!

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Believing the above, but still believing we live in a democracy.

[-] Julian_1_2_3_4_5@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

I don't think evetybody, i think some rich white egoistic man might also be republican, but besides that, probably yes.

[-] corroded@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

While I don't always agree, I can see how people can justify fiscally conservative policies. I tend to swing left, but arguing for small government isn't without merit. The problem is with socially conservative policies. The republican party is no longer the party of small government, but is instead the party of bigotry and hatred for their fellow Americans. I wish I had the option of voting for multiple parties, but unless I suddenly decide that I want to regress to 1920s social policies, Democrat is the only semi-sane option.

[-] ewe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Depends on what the motivation is. There are fiscal conservatives that think it is a responsible thing to do and then there are the fiscal conservatives trying to pull the ladder up behind them. Fuck the latter. Agree to disagree with the former.

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