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It doesn't give them the right to bomb the hospital point blank period, proportionality clauses kick in and it's arguably reason to ground assault it but they cannot ignore the civilian cost of life when they're are other ways to go about clearing the garrison.
Ed: Jesus Christ, 3 seconds on Google prior just can't seem to do.
Lol "garrisoned". This isn't Age of Empires. Gaza is one of the most densely populated area on the planet. They have no freedom of movement, and the area is completely blockaded. Anywhere anyone in that area tries to stage a defense is a "civilian area." They're literally prohibited from having anything else.
So there is nowhere they could defend from that you wouldn't consider "human shield."
But you know that.
Edit: Corrected. Because fascist apologists love getting honest interlocutors hung up on semantics. I misspoke, and it's "just" one of the most densely populated areas. Because that changes my argument in any real way whatsoever.
I know what the word means. If you want to get all semantic about it, Hamas isn't a "military force," they're an insurgency. I'm not sure an insurgency "garrisons".
Gaza is not even close to being the most densely populated area on the planet, what is your source for that?
Also have you seen a map of gaza? There are many open areas hamas could use to launch attacks from, but it chooses (rather rationally I might add) to site its materiel in places where israeli retaliation will cause civillian casualties.
I apologize that I forgot to add "one of the" before "most." The point still stands.
Oh, you looked at a map of Gaza, and because of that you are an expert on the land and you know the best strategic locations for them to set up? Fuck off.
Israel made an open-air prison, and when a group of extremists react, they bomb the entire fucking prison (strangely aiming at the hospitals, and the areas where they instructed refugees to go).
Edit: After re-reading this comment, i'd like to correct something. I don't think it's even accurate to say Israel created an open-air prison, or to call Gaza a prison. The word "prison" heavily implies that the people there did something to deserve their punishment. I wonder if anyone could let me know all the terrorist acts those Gazan children performed... Was it "throwing rocks at IDF"? Because that's usually punishable by death.
Child. Glad to see you admit this is a joke to you.
Hey man, play to your audience.
I notice you still have not corrected the lie from your other post - why could that be?
I didn't lie, I misspoke and I did correct myself. But since that apparently wasn't enough, see edit.
As if the correction changes anything about the point being made.
What lie? The mistake of fact they corrected?
Open areas, you know! Those places everyone can see, who needs operational security when you have all that room for activities!
"Rather rationally I might add" what did you take this part to mean?
Hedging doesn't change your idiotic point. No one uses open areas because.... They're open fucking areas. It's like saying "why don't you go play baseball in that lake over there."
Are you retarded or just incapable of reading? Do you think I said their decision to not use open areas was rational because I thought it was dumb?
I read just fine bud, your point is still shit. It doesn't matter that there are open areas because no one would use them certainly not an insurgency that can't mass troops. It's nothing, why bring it up.
No the fuck they don't!
You just ain't right bud, do some fucking reading before you spout Israeli talking points.
https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality
Same source, you know that's theres like thousands of laws in relation to war correct?
I don't know better boss, but I can use the search bar and read, you don't need much more than that to know you're objectively wrong and your source agrees.