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Once a pirate, always a pirate (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 2 years ago by dramaticcat@discuss.tchncs.de to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[-] YeeterPan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

steal

Tldr~ the comment isn't relevant as piracy isn't stealing

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure whether to agree or not, but he's got the point in the following sense: if everyone will pirate and never donate to the creator, then the creator will get about zero returns and will likely go make a living doing something else.

So pirate + donate looks like more fair redistribution of wealth, while pirate + no pay looks like being greedy asshole same as corporations

[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Honestly, you should go watch Benn Jordan: https://youtu.be/gDfNRWsMRsU?si=TWErOa6A1XxvFpJu

He makes some great points and has some personal examples. He made more money by releasing the album on torrents and asking for donations compared to the normal ways of releasing your music.

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[-] Bondsmith@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Just curious, why do you not consider piracy stealing? It seems to me that if you take something of value from someone without compensation then that might as well be stealing

[-] afathl@feddit.ch 11 points 2 years ago

You make a copy of something of value, you don't steal it. It's still there afterwards

[-] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 5 points 2 years ago

Agreed 100%. Original argument about taking something of value, if somone takes the source code, rebrands the original and re-releases the content for money, that would be stealing.

What are these people called? Not pirates for sure, Oh right they're called some big "media creator company"

[-] SpookyOperative 3 points 2 years ago

But pirates aren't taking anything

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

I’ll never lose sleep over it and don’t care for the whales but I do directly donate $15 a month, sometimes individually but often times to 2 or 3 individuals. The only service I pay for otherwise is realdebrid. I started donating as I got to a comfortable place in life and am happy to contribute that subscription plus my $15 a month donation to the project, creator, artist w/e. I pick based on the content our household is consuming or projects I want to support.

At the end of the day I don’t think anyone needs to justify anything. Even if pirating is considered to be immoral, which I’m not arguing, it would still be the least immoral practice in the process compared to all the shit that takes place with large commercially developed content.

If things ever got stupid I’d just play crossword and do puzzles, I’m not so attached to electronic media that I’d pay over $50 a month for the entertainment.