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[-] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

It's pretty hilarious that any person would call the totalitarian, chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized North Korea "the Good Korea"

[-] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

It's pretty hilarious that you're so smug and up your own ass you pretend to not understand that other political ideologies exist that may differ from your own. So full of yourself and your own self aggrandizement that you can't type a sentence without presenting it in such a way as though the other person is so stupid for not seeing things your way. Take your smarmy ass back to reddit. No one likes nor wants you around on their forums

[-] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I can't help it it's just so fun shitting on people who advocate for authoritarian government

[-] btbt@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Authoritarianism” is a buzzword used by people who think that a government which does anything beyond letting itself get railed by corporations is overreaching, come up with better material

[-] quaver@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

"authoritarianism isn't real" is the funniest take I've heard this year. I suggest you take a break from the internet.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Post hog, liberal.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Define authority. All governments utilise authority.

[-] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I can't help being smuglord . This is why no one actually likes you. Die alone.

[-] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sure they just weren't aware that starving your whole population is simply a "differing political ideology." Cut them some slack.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You live in the largest, most expensive propaganda machine that's ever been created by man

You're talking about a country and an ideology that propaganda machine has been willing to burn the world with nuclear hellfire to contain for a hundred years

Learn about the things you're talking about. "The forgotten war"

Yes. North Korea is and has always been the good guys.

[-] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You should move there and leave the internet to the rest of us then. Why keep hanging out in the giant propaganda machine, right?

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

That's impossible to believe but you can swallow the idea they tell their people they've dug up unicorns. You believe they make everyone have the same haircut as the dictator but you can't believe that an enemy of a country currently assisting and giving protection to a genocide could be the good guy.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No they don't, actually. And the way you brush off someone asking you to learn something with a vacuous smug affectation should be your first clue that you are indeed uneducated at least.

Grunge is dead. "I don't care everything sucks" is infantile. Everyone has seen the 'both sides it's complicated taking a position is a sign of mental illness' bullshit enough at this point. It's a trick to feel smart that doesn't work anymore. Get a new bit.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

"The forgotten war" refers to the Korean war. I'm asking you to learn about the Korean war.

"Contender" "destroying" oh my god please shut up

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they both suck, dude.

Why though? What makes you think that other than "in bad country it is bad" ?

What actual things do you know about this country that drives you to have such an emotional reaction? Do you have this reaction about any south american countries or african countries? Many of them are capitalist countries that are significantly worse off for their people. Why is your emotional reaction significantly different for this one in particular?

The answer is propaganda. Your assessment is not a levelheaded on based on any real educated understanding of the data in comparison with other countries. Your assessment is based on feels acquired through the popular beliefs. Guess where those popular beliefs come from? The same place yours have come from, with the same level of understanding that you have. It's ignorant feels all the way down. Created by the strongest media propaganda machine ever devised in history.

Is any of this to say that it's all fucking rosey over there? Fuck no. Most of us are not juche and believe in a mixed market approach like what is being undertaken in Cuba, Vietnam, or China. We mostly have large criticisms of the isolated approach. But does that mean we buy into all the bullshit spread in the west and perpetuate it uncritically? Also no. That's what you're seeing here. People countering the utterly ignorant western bullshit liberals spew isn't an explicit endorsement of the country, but an attempt to get people to calm the fuck down about it and look at it in a more measured way.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Read any books written by Bruce Cummings

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

They genuinely are the good guys.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized

i wonder why a country under economic sanction from the US & its allies for decades might have economic trouble. i wonder why they're rude to the US after the US bombed and murdered their people for 3 years & still occupy the southern half of their country

[-] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I mean the US did have talks and if you're not willing to concede anything that's on you. Also, military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

South Korea is on its FIFTH version of the country because the US continually coups it whenever the existing people aren't doing exactly what they want. It's called the Fifth Republic for a fucking reason. It is an occupied vassal state entirely subservient to the USA and has been ever since the US genocided one fifth of the population of Korea (all of Korea). Keep in mind that being on your FIFTH republic is remarkable when the southern dictatorship was only first formed in 1948.

The US military has also literally run korean children over with tanks, which is very funny given that this is fake propaganda levelled at another enemy of the US, but in the case of america it's actually fucking true.

[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I had no clue there were several republics kinda like France (I think?), I searched Wikipedia and it said that they are on their 6th republic, not 5th. Maybe you are off by one? Either way it's a poor mark on the country and its governance.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation

45 fucking years the US propped up, armed, and aided the dictatorial rule of conservative and military governments in South Korea. South Korea's army still comes under US control in wartime, but sure 2 decades of just mostly corrupt "democracy" means they can just opt-out of US military garrisons. nothing bad would happen to the government that demands that, no matter how popular it is with the Korean people

if you're not willing to concede anything

the US won't concede basic demands like moving their troops off the border! fucking ridiculous equating Korea's refusal to expose itself to attack with US bases thousands of miles away from the US

[-] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Despite this, as of 2011, 74% of South Koreans have a favorable view of the U.S., making it one of the most pro-American countries in the world.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

46% of s. Koreans support unification versus 26% against, the United States constitutes the single greatest obstacle to this & Korean soverignty

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Sorry, my bad.

"Best Korea" it is.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's only hilarious if you're highly propagandised and have never examined any of the absolutely ridiculous propaganda that has led you to feel the way you do about them such as:

Using anti aircraft guns for executions ("according to south korean media" lmao)

They have to push the trains

They all have to get the same haircut

Or that they're aggressive or something? Like what? How many wars has Korea been in since the US killed 1 fifth of its entire population in the biggest post-holocaust genocide the world has ever seen?

The shit you believe is ridiculous, why do you believe this shit? Why have you never actually said "that sounds fucking stupid"? You don't examine anything critically at all. You just go with the flow because you've seen everyone else be hyper negative about it and never really actually stopped and thought about any of these utterly ridiculous things.

In the meantime, the US is responsible for starting 205 out of 248 conflicts between ww2 and 2010. And yet the DPRK is supposedly a bad rogue state? You're out of your mind, you do not apply the same principles to one of these countries vs the other, you are guided by FEELS based on whatever propaganda has successfully taken hold in the population. You aren't really guided by facts or real accessible information we have via the worldbank data and the UN.

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uncritical support to the DPRK in its heroic struggle to rid occupied Korea of the genocidal US Empire. Uncritical support to the Juche ideology and its implementation.

kim-salute

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

farquaad-point hey look, they believe western propoganda

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Wild to me how many replies you're getting that defend North Korea. A failed state that has a starving population with no freedoms and is completely ostracised from most of the world. By choice.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A failed state that has a starving population

This is not correct. Food security in the country has drastically improved and continues to improve - FAO data - Unicef data - both support this position.

By choice.

No? The reason it's ostracised is a UN vote that was successfully passed that has never been challenged since because the DPRK is not in or allowed to join the UN, any attempt to would be immediately veto'd by the west. This is called 1718.


Wild to me how many replies you're getting that defend North Korea

You see, this here is a problem. You consider simply stating factually true things that people are generally unaware of to be "defending north korea". You live in ignorance and seek to maintain that ignorance in other people rather than view the situation in a more balanced and academic way.

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not going to engage with someone who resorts to ad hominem attacks.

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