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[-] Drusas@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

Maybe because they basically keep making the same movie over and over again. Stop beating the horse.

[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I completely disagree with your take, but it’s not the first time I’ve heard it. I’m interested to understand why do you think these are basically all the same?

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 2 years ago

I like them, but there is a very defined formula.

  • Start off with character we like
  • Introduce bad guy, maybe a small fight
  • Meet up with another character from the MCU, have a pep talk/other character tells them how serious it actually is
  • Go on an adventure, maybe with a cameo
  • Fight scene with baddy, our superhero fails
  • Sad moment, hero is broken
  • Hero picks himself up
  • Builds up for big fight
  • Big fight
  • Celebrate, but someone mentions that it's not all over
  • (Optional, end credits scene showing someone picking up where baddy left off)

I like the MCU movies, but this format becomes incredibly obvious especially in the newer movies. I wish they'd just get a bit more creative.

[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Most of what you’re describing is a regular 3 act structure with the beats of almost any adventure movie. A lot of their movies are action adventures, so that’ll happen. I like experimental arthouse stuff, too. Why knock Marvel for doing what these genres will likely always do?

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 2 years ago

You're right, but when MCU movies are combined they're all the same. Like I said, I enjoy them, don't think I don't. But after so many I wish they would have branched out a bit.

[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’m not with the Marvel police accusing anybody of not being a fan here. We’re just sharing and comparing ideas.

When you say they should’ve branched more, does that look like She Hulk? Dr Strange? GotG? Werewolf by Night? They have and do branch out a ton, some of them unsuccessfully and others are very good. So, like I keep hearing that criticism that they should branch out more or they’re all the same but really I think they’ve just had a few under performing movies this last year. The worst movies that Marvel makes feel like paper dolls of something we’ve seen before, yeah agreed. I just take issue with saying all marvel movies are all the same because it doesn’t really talk about why some don’t work and it undercuts the ones that did work, it’s just reductionist. Thor 2 checked all the bare minimum marvel boxes without any substance and sucked, there’s a lot fair criticisms to be made there. Comparing that to She Hulk which was also subpar and the overlap is almost nonexistent.

Like what kind of branching out would you be excited about, Marvels’ Jesus Christ Superstar?

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Because there are superheros probably.

[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Not really a critique of anything. Storytellers will always tell stories about people with powers; they always have. Marvel at it’s peak was making good movies and it’s not because Captain America’s Shield has cartoon bounce powers. They’ve covered a lot of different genres in interesting ways, successfully. That’s like saying, all stories are they same because there’s characters in them.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't disagree at all, about to watch the Marvels myself. Moreso I've seen a lot of people argue that point, not that I was making it myself :p

Edit: I liked the movie, nothing groundbreaking but it was definitely fun

[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

If no pavement was injured in the making of this movie then I think this might be a brave new choice for marvel. I thought Ragnorok was pretty earth shattering until I remembered Asgard is a different planet.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Lmao, now that you mention it, there was a lot of concrete broken.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Have you ever noticed that El Barto and Martin Prince are never in the same room at the same time?

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