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On lemmy.world I posted a comment on how liberals use 'tankie' as an invective to shut down dialogue and received tons of hateful replies. I tried to respond in a rational way to each. Someone's said 'get educated' I responded 'Im reading Norman Finkelstein's I'll burn that bridge when I get there' and tried to keep it civil.

They deleted every comment I made and banned me. Proving my point, they just want to shut down dialogue. Freedom of speech doesn't existing in those 'totalitarian' countries right? But in our 'enlightened' western countries we just delete you.

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[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago

As an ML I actually agree with you, the state is a weapon and i would like to see it one day outlive it's usefulness and wither so that communism can be achieved. However, it's a weapon that you absolutely cannot discard until capitalism has been destroyed, and until then, unilateral disarmament is guaranteed suicide for a revolutionary movement.

[-] Blake@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

I could not have put it better myself, thank you for your illuminating comment.

[-] spacedout@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

guaranteed suicide

As is blind faith in a revolutionary movement's ability to wield such a weapon in the interest of the proletariat and towards communism. Seems like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting Mao's critique of the USSR.

"The revisionist Khrushchov clique abolish the dictatorship of the proletariat behind the camouflage of the "state of the whole people", change the proletarian character of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union behind the camouflage of the "party of the entire people" and pave the way for the restoration of capitalism behind that of "full-scale communist construction". - Mao - marxists.org

But is this not equally true for China today?

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

No offense, but I can tell you're some flavor of ultra/liberal by your use of dramatic, bombastic language to make sweeping statements that don't hold up to scrutiny.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago
[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

You are an ultra? Then why do you sound like a yankee flag huffing neoliberal all the time?

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