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[-] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 78 points 10 months ago

Yeah, a surprising number of people don't want these hyper complex cars with thousands of microchips and millions of lines of code operating them. Give me an electric 2012 Honda fit/Toyota matrix equivalent that just fucking works and costs $20k or less new.

[-] llii@feddit.de 49 points 10 months ago

Yes please. I want my car to work without tracking and software updates.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Keep dreaming.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I’m just refusing to buy a car newer than 2008. Really an arbitrary cutoff, but that seems to be about when every car started to get as many electronics into them as possible.

[-] Damage@slrpnk.net 14 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I don't care about color changing LEDs in the trim or talking computers, just give me a cheap android-auto-compatible head unit (replaceable please, none of that integrated bullshit), a cheap instrument cluster and a real handbrake.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s the batteries. They are the biggest cost in an EV. The margins on such a car would be too low. Even the new Volvo XC30 is 35k plus which is one of the cheapest and most barebones EV.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But Volvos have never been cheap. Also big and heavy forever.

Make an eFit for $15 - 20k and sell a bazillion of them.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Good luck finding enough batteries for that many cars. That’s the entire problem right now. They can’t scale the production to the point that will make the production of econobox EVs reasonably profitable. Because the worldwide production capacity of lithium batteries is lagging behind the demand right now. Also why the cost of the batteries are high.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Well the answer is right there - smaller cars, smaller packs. Can power 2 or 3 fit sized EV's for every lightning F150 pack.

[-] tmjaea@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Got exactly that with a VW e up.

[-] ceiphas@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

You know that the e up was cancelled by VW?

[-] tmjaea@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
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