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[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

To me, it sounds a whole lot like both Biden AND Trump can be considered fascists….especially with this idea of secret military aid to Israel that I’m reacting to here.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Looking at it from an economic definition perspective though Biden represents the financial bourgeoisie and Trump represents more industrial bourgeoisie

[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago

I’d actually argue that Trump comes from the real estate bourgeoisie but I agree on the Biden characterization. Biden never saw an MBNA donor contribution that he didn’t love (like in 2008 when he sold all future generations out for a $250,000 payout from MBNA).

I just don’t see how real estate wealth translates to industry. In general, many of Trump’s areas don’t fully align with the Republican establishment who, in my observation, generally are from real estate, energy, and industry as you mentioned.

Thinking about it more, it seems like real estate has a lot of overlap in both parties.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Trump obviously comes from real estate, but his current money-making on a direct level is decidedly media-driven. The question is who gives him money and who benefits from his policy, and I think the answer is that he has a relatively larger amount of support from the petite bourgeois.

[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah that’s true. They found a cash cow in him, though I’d still consider him an outsider (especially after his political capital has been used up).

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

High fixed capital

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