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[-] vmaziman@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago

Saying it’s our responsibility to have kids it’s implying it’s our responsibility to endlessly expand and multiply. That is the domain of viruses and creatures that exceed the environmental carrying capacity of their species

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 2 years ago

it’s our responsibility to endlessly expand and multiply.

Not necessarily. We can still encourage people to have kids but keep it close to replacement rate (2.3 kids per woman)

[-] vmaziman@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

But isn’t it the fact that we have so many people coming into the middle class with middle class resource usage that causes planetary resource overruse? Either we need less people in the middle class, or 7 billion ppl have got to go back to pre industrial levels of consumption

[-] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 2 years ago

Either we need less people in the middle class, or 7 billion ppl have got to go back to pre industrial levels of consumption

No, we need less people living with the north american standard of consumption. This is not the same as "middle class".

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