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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago

It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in?

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate?

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They're obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they're the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area.

There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

At one time, yes, but I don't think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans.

Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there's better ways to point this out.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How long before you expect a population to be responsible for their country?

[-] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 8 points 1 year ago

I don't blame North Koreans for being in a dictatorship, why would I blame Palestinians?

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When their "leaders" don't represent them? Never. Same reason I don't hate on Israelis.

[-] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Like over a decade ago but they havent held elections since. I've seen countering articles saying Hamas has overwhelming support by the people, vs actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them. So who knows. Fog of war and all that.

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them

Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is.

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