68
Anyone know what's going on with Wagner in Russia
(lemmygrad.ml)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2023
68 points (100.0% liked)
GenZedong
16 readers
1 users here now
This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.
If you haven't already found it, this GitHub page is an excellent collection of sources about socialism, imperialism, and other relevant topics, made by @dessalines and others.
We have a Matrix homeserver and a private Matrix room. See this thread for more information.
Rules:
- No ableism, racism, misogyny, transphobia, etc.
- No being pro-Amerikkka
- No being an electoralist or a lib (of course)
- Moderator discretion
- This community is explicitly pro-AES
- No dogmatism/idealism (Trotskyism, Gonzaloism, Hoxhaism, anarchism, etc.)
- Reactionary or ultra-leftist cringe posts belong in /c/shitreactionariessay or /c/shitultrassay respectively
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Thank you, that makes a lot more sense.
Sadly I do not think that’s possible. It might not be a popular thought here, but I believe this might be the extent of the Russian army, Air Force, and navy capabilities.
They have been doing a good job at grinding down NATO assets, but at a large loss to themselves in an unsustainable manner, and they seem unable to muster any actual offensive strength. Seeing as how the lines have been basically static for the past year and half; with significant losses on the Russian side (failed drive on Kiev, and the loss of Kherson and Kharkov just to name a few).
While grind NATO in a war of attrition might be the best thing Russia can do, at the same time Sun Tzu’s message that the worst war is a long war still rings true. With a long war (even if you’re winning) you will still encounter war weariness from the population whose support will slowly diminish, you will face irreplaceable losses in men, machine, and fuel, and your troops will become battle fatigued and lose interest in the conflict.
I think it's more the Russian government realizing that, in order to prosecute this war as it probably should be prosecuted, they would need to take the irrecovable final step: de facto abandonment of the post-1991 political order and re-Sovietization of the Russian economy. This, we know, is something that they're extremely reluctant to do. Over the past twenty years, they've made certain steps in this direction, but only when absolutely compelled by circumstances, and when the alternative is literal destruction of Russia. Some of this reluctance stems from liberal ideology, which still has a very strong hold in most countries; some of it is probably from a mass of mid-level bureaucrats and people in the security services (Putin's original base of support) who are genuinely patriotic, but also shell-shocked from the 90s, and who thus have an irrational but completely understandable fear of anything which will, in the common phrase, "rock the boat." But it all adds up to a government which feels that the status quo is extremely fragile, and hence values stability above almost anything else; which is to say that they are "conservative" in the only real meaning of the term.
Either Shoigu or Lavrov is supposed to have said last year that when this conflict ends, "we will have the Soviet Union back." There's a truth to that, because Russia right now is like a bullied person, or a battered woman, under the boot of that thug which is the collective west; the person under the boot has been able to dictate more and more terms of late, but ultimate emancipation still means throwing off the bully, climbing to one's feet, and socking him hard in the jaw. When that step is taken, the bullied person becomes finally himself again, and Russia again becomes the USSR, by force of material reality and the natural progression of the real modes of production; but it is a risky step, and the politicians in Moscow will not take it unless forced.